[matt murphy]

OK guys, put the pipe dream down about the wild wing and side pipes. Joel did them in the 60's and 70's because he thought of it. Today, that wild wing on a Camaro looks horrible and my little white car was made fun of by everyone and that alone was more than enough to ensure to others that it wont work. Besides, that car was bought that way and that spoiler is on its way to CA. I bet Charlie can sell it for me out there . . . quick. Just Kidding. It was never an idea for this Motion car, as I like the factory stuff and That Is What Is Collectible, not junk aftermarket stuff. Besides, that white hardtop car is a donor car for another project that has something to do with the dealership I bought it from, Sutliff Chevrolet ???

These cars are going to be unique and nothing some 17 year old kid is going to be able to redo to his V-6 camaro. We have an image here, like the ZL1 to take care of, and I will not entertain an aftermarket piece that has been overdone. Like the ZL1 Supercar package, it is a 2002 version, and this Motion car will be the same. It will be first class and very difficult to imitate.

No 454 Big Block engines here, we are in the year 2003 and we are going to use the same engine that the C5R Corvettes ran last weekend in Le Mans. This motor is the modern day ZL1 motor and it has the racing history that the original ZL1 motors had in Can Am and the late 60's and early 70's Corvettes, as well as Drag Racing. I don't think you will find any street driven 60's or 70's big block 454 or 427 that can handle 12:1 compression and make over 500hp to the rear wheels like this new modern day big block is making and still get 22 to 24 mpg, with AC.

This 427 C5R Race Case is no small block, except maybe for the fact that it will fit in our Camaro, but 600 plus HP, and the streetability of a vintage big block, why go back to an old big block that wont fit, and if you think it did in Jon Moss's late model ZL1 Prostreet Camaro, then look again at the cutting they had to do. I don't mean to be getting on your ideas, but we went through this 25 times or more with the ZL1 owners, just ask Bill Porterfield and anyone else here about their original thoughts and ask them what they think of the new 427 motor now that they have one. Modern technology has come a long way and if you want to see a 9 second Motion car, well, stick around, because one of these 20 cars will be running in the 9's.

This is going to be a fun project and your input is valuable and I will listen to any ideas, so please don't stop with the pipe dreams, but go easy on the rear spoiler and side pipes, Charlie is getting nervous. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]