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notstock71 10-21-2013 02:36 AM

not really a musclecar but need advice
 
Its not really a "musclecar" to most people but I came across a 1991 Camaro with the B4C package. It is a former Nebraska State Patrol car. It is white with red guts, 305 5 speed car. It has over 100k on it but presents well. I have done the reading on the cars and production numbers are low. I do not know if it has the 1LE brakes which became standard mid 91. The 3rd gens have their following but they don't get the love like all other generations. I'm struggling to find a value for the car and am thinking it should book like any other 91 Z with 100k on it. Then I start considering the low production numbers of the police package Camaros.

The current owner has had it for years, basically since it was auctioned off. It is buried in his garage and the storage pile on top of it is slowly growing.It turned 100k in his posession so I don't know what was on it when it was taken out of service. Since it seems there is at least one member here who is very knowledgable when these questions come up I thought Id throw this out there. I don't know my long term goals for the car, I like them. They are surprisingly nice on road trips (as long as you are in the front seats). The seller didn't know what he wanted for it but is looking to sell. I was driving by and stopped to inquire, I've been watching the car for years.
Thanks in advance
Lewis

Charley Lillard 10-21-2013 04:18 AM

Re: not really a musclecar but need advice
 
I would figure somewhere between 5-10K ? Not sure..

10-21-2013 06:11 AM

Re: not really a musclecar but need advice
 
If I were looking at this car i"d be asking myself.......why do I really want it?

twertsy 10-21-2013 09:40 AM

Re: not really a musclecar but need advice
 
Hey Lewis...I'd have to say Charley is close. Even though less than 600 were produced, I'd lower Charley's estimate and say 3-8k. A friend bought one a year or so ago, albeit without drive train, for $1400.

old5.0 10-21-2013 01:31 PM

Re: not really a musclecar but need advice
 
http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/?s...ae6998ac4&

That's the place to ask.

69LM1 10-21-2013 02:44 PM

Re: not really a musclecar but need advice
 
I'd add 10% to whatever the non B4C cars are selling for on ebay, in similar condition for a fair price.

Look on the sticker in the glove box and see of the 1LE code is there as well, if so, add 15%.

My .02

Rich

notstock71 10-21-2013 06:38 PM

Re: not really a musclecar but need advice
 
Thank you to everyone for the advice. I've been on other ssites doing research on the cars and there are many different opinions which I welcome. I guess my interest in the car is twofold. I like the 3rd gens and it would be fun to drive for awhile. Would I keep it long term, I don't know. I have plenty to occupy my time now. I have 4 cars sitting already and only 1 is drivable. I see it as a chance to "save" the car from where it is now and hopefully get it in good hands if I sold it. To me it is more than a regular Camaro but the police package probably wouldn't matter to others. I believe 3rd gens will appreciate eventually and clean original examples will be out there but not common.

old5.0 10-21-2013 07:56 PM

Re: not really a musclecar but need advice
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: notstock71</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thank you to everyone for the advice. I've been on other ssites doing research on the cars and there are many different opinions which I welcome. I guess my interest in the car is twofold. I like the 3rd gens and it would be fun to drive for awhile. Would I keep it long term, I don't know. I have plenty to occupy my time now. I have 4 cars sitting already and only 1 is drivable. I see it as a chance to &quot;save&quot; the car from where it is now and hopefully get it in good hands if I sold it. To me it is more than a regular Camaro but the police package probably wouldn't matter to others. I believe 3rd gens will appreciate eventually and clean original examples will be out there but not common. </div></div>

Here's my 2 cents. 80's stuff is already appreciating, but these cars are where 60's musclecars were 30 years ago. People are buying, selling, restoring and collecting, but the speculators, and therefore the hype, are absent. I was watching a Mecum auction earlier this year when an 84 20th anniversary Mustang convertible rolled across the block and drew a ridiculous bid ($2500 or something like that). One of the announcers made the comment that the interest in these cars just isn't there yet, and of course examples like that give folks like Keith Martin ammunition when they claim that &quot;nothing from the smog era will ever be collectible.&quot;

I see two closely related problems there. First, nobody goes to Mecum or BJ or any of those venues to buy something from the 80's. People are there for 60's muscle first and foremost. Second, nobody who's serious about these cars buys or sells at those venues, for the reason stated above. Wrong audience. I know less about the third gen's, but nice Fox bodies are increasing in price, and certain rare parts have shot into the stratosphere in the past 12-18 months. I've peddled a ton of rare Fox stuff over the past year, and not a single sale was conducted at an auction, or on ebay or even on craigslist. It's all been word-of-mouth.

If it was me (without seeing the car in person), I'd go somewhere between $6-8K on it. If you want to keep it, great. If not, you have room to turn a profit. It'll take some time and effort to find the people willing step up and pay real money to own it, but they are out there.

69LM1 10-21-2013 10:55 PM

Re: not really a musclecar but need advice
 
One of the lesser known 1LE's out there are the Canadian &quot;Players Challenge&quot; cars. I believe that you had to have an SCCA license to even order one. They are not very well known and cool cars. I think they are R7U coded cars.

Rich


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