Anyone else following the 1969 Nova maybe a Yenko thread on FB?
 

Guy posted he inherited the Nova from his uncle. Said the VIN is on the YSC registry. I see Joe Carella and Charley Lillard posting in the thread I figured some of you don't do FB.

I don't know how to directly link the thread, it's in this group:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheNovaNation

That body number is right between two known Yenkos on the VIN list.

So Kool to find such a rare Super Car.

The car needs more research done.
I told him to get the NCRS shipping data report to see if it comes back to Yenko and to call Warren to see if he has anything.

Check the car for holes on the rear for Yenko crest emblems or Yenko 427 Emblems
Check the front fender for holes for 427 emblem.
Check the rear gear and code
there are other small detail items to check

One Yenko 427 Nova was restored with the 1968 Impala 427 fender emblem/side light.

Most of Yenko 427 Novas had the 396 emblem/side light removed and the Yenko 427 emblem installed with the side light to a base car that has no engine emblem

here are some photos showing the different combos
The photo posted of his car shows the base car side light but I don't know if the 427 holes are there.

The holes were there. They've been filled.

Nice did the guy post that somewhere other than the Nova thread on FB?

Yes other people shared it to other FB pages

My nomination for “Find Of The Year”.

Like Kurt B. mentioned on FB this needs to be brought to MCACN for the barn finds display.

So if he confirms it was delivered to Yenko it's at least a COPO and maybe he can track down more info. Did he share pics of the cluster, those are different for COPO's right?

the 1969 Yenko 427 Nova was not a COPO order like the 69 427 Camaro and Chevelle . Yenko transplanted the 427 short block.

There are still some items to look for such as holes for the SW tach and sending unit.

Most of the Yenko 427 Nova ads list 4:10 gears so I am curious of the gear ratio.

This is an amazing car, congrats to all who were chasing the story and eventually found the Holy Grail!

He posted a bunch of pics in the Yenko FB group, saw Joe C reacting to them. Great stuff.

Looks like the owner is just up the road from MCACN in Milwaukee.

One of the great muscle car finds of alltime! I'll have a nomination at MCACN. Rarer than a '69 SYC Nova and also a 427 transplant car. :-)

Warren D is a key person to check with. While I have never seen the list of 37 1969 SYC Novas, it is my understanding that Vince Eme has the list as well as info on some of the converted cars.

Got me confused here Wes! How is it rarer than a 69 sYc Nova when it is supposedly a sYc Nova?

It's a transplant car by another Supercar builder with a lower estimated production number. Hope that clears it up.

it appears to have the rear panel holes like a 427 Yenko Nova

hopefully the 427 paperwork can be found.

Someone posted that Vince E. sold his paperwork collection. Can anyone confirm that?

Holes make sense if the SS panel was held in by 4 screws/bolts. Nice eye!!

Nope. Still has it.

Looks like this Nova came thru Dale Chevrolet, anyone else see the Dale emblem on the trunk lid??

In and around the Milwaukee area, there are so many significant (and non significant) cars stuffed away. West Allis, Hales Corners, South Milwaukee, Butler, and Waukesha were a hot bed of high performance back in the day. The cars didn't necessarily move, they just got stuffed away and forgotten about.

As people are having health difficulties, retiring, and / or passing........some of these cars are seeing the light of day again.

I have made a couple of friends who worked at Dale Chevrolet in period. I could listen to the stories for days.

If the VIN is on the list and it was sold through one of the Yenko network dealerships there's a good chance it was a 427 transplant car. One of my friends told me a story several years ago about a 427 Nova one of his friends bought new at Gates Chevrolet. Apparently his friend had to work late the day the car came in so his friend arranged for him to pick it up at the dealership and bring it to his place of work. My friend said that was the fastest car he had ever driven at the time. I asked him if it was a Yenko Nova and he said it wasn't. He remembered it as being blue and not having any stripes. I always assumed it was a Yenko that was delivered without stripes. Gates did receive a LeMans Blue Yenko Nova with a 427 transplant according to the VIN list.

I have a 70 L34 Nova that came out of Dale Chevrolet. It was in the Wisconsin area the entire time, until I bought it in 08. Car never saw winter, no rust anywhere and original paint too.

Last week, I re-visited a real black L34 4-speed '69 Camaro SS at a local shop for finishing. He was a customer of Camaro Parts Exchange back in the '80s; been sitting probably 30+ years. Another one of our customers claimed to have a Yenko Chevelle. He must have sensed I didn’t believe him so I was invited for a visit. Real deal, yellow 4-speed sitting in a garage on the NW side of Milwaukee. Never saw it again. Probably still there.

Other recent finds include the orange/orange Dale COPO Camaro and the ’68 Nova “Ghetto Rat” race car.

In an 80 mile stretch along I-94 there was Dale Chev [Waukesha], Yunker Chev [Oconomowoc] and Hult’s Chev [Madison]. At least 30 COPO Camaros sold out of those dealerships; Yunker and Hult’s were Yenko franchisees for ’69 and also sold Chevelles and maybe a Nova. Few of them are known to exist. My guess, several of those cars remain hidden in the area.

I have also heard the Yenko 427 Nova stories over the years. Purchased new at Yunker by a woman in nearby Elm Grove, given to her 18-year-old son for making it through HS. That lasted about 3 months; she traded it in for something else. One of my Nova buds has a pic of the car on a showroom floor.

The Nova on FB has a Dale Chev nameplate; they were not a franchisee for ’69 so it was not sold new there. True, a few guys that worked there back in the day are around but none of them remembered the orange/orange COPO at all. The Principal Owners’ son, Bill Dale Jr. was still with us last I knew. The only car he has memories of is ZL-1 Camaro #7, acquired directly from Fred Gibb.

Hope to hear more about the Yenko 427 Nova and its Milwaukee history.

That would obviously be a 68 Harrell Chevelle.

this photo of the Funny car and Yenko Nova was posted on FB

Is this photo at Dale Chevrolet?

someone posted that it is from Braeger Chev ?

I found an old photo of Braeger and a ad from Dale 1969 advertising 1969 427s

it is early in the investigation of this car so some conflicting info is coming out.

I think it will take some time to get all the info correct , and paperwork , photos, etc

I searched for the Viking Funny car on a FC site and didn't find it but found the Dale Super Hugger run by Bernie Adams from Milwaukee, WI.

Yunker advertised 427 Yenko Camaro Chevelle and Chevy II

says they were the exclusive distributor for Yenkos

I’m here in Wauwatosa this weekend visiting my mom. So cool that this car was stashed away for so long, just one town over.

The Ghetto Rat is such a cool piece!

I saw that car about 5-6 years ago at a car show in Butler. What a time capsule!

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/art...evy-ii-nova-ss

So....

-Body number is between two known Yenkos, converted 427 cars?
-Owner can get NCRS info, find out which dealer took delivery. Is it unlikely it was Dale based on what you guys are saying? Car could have sold used obviously through Dale too.
-The holes in back might be correct for Yenko badging, and the holes that were welded up in front indicated it had different front badging in its past
-Owner has yet to verify or share pics of fuel line.
-Owner can also sand down rear and look for the code on there, 4.10 something like that.
-What about the cluster, would the cluster be different for a converted car?

I lived a few miles from Braeger in 1969 and am virtually certain that is where that photo was taken. They were the first 'Mega Dealership' in the area, located in a former department store. Not really a performance dealership but sold a lot of everything, including performance cars. Have the pop from a Garnet Red L78/M22/ZL2 Camaro sold there. Still in the same location today.

The circa 1962 photo is the former location, when Bob Braeger and Jim King were partners. They parted about that time, Jim King opening a small dealership in a residential area on the SE side of Milwaukee. Showroom still there. The former King-Braeger store is now an Auto Zone.

There are four known cars on the 69 Yenko Nova VIN list on this site that were built the first week of January. I believe they are all documented as being 427 transplant cars. Their body numbers are 254952, 254954, 254956 and 254965. Since this cars body number is 254955 it looks like it was likely ordered by Yenko as well. The NCRS paperwork will just show which dealership the car was shipped to, not which dealership actually sold the car. If this car comes back as being shipped to Yenko, the next step would be to try to find out what dealership it was sold new through. Just because the VIN is on the list on this site doesn't mean it is a 427 transplant car.

For as long as I can remember 37 has been used as the number of 69 Yenko Novas built. I don't know where that number came from. I believe there are 25 VINS on the list on this website. It's my understanding that this VIN list is of the L78 Novas that Yenko ordered. Only a handful of these cars were 427 transplant cars. I believe all the VINS on this site are for cars built the first week of January or the second week of April. The one exception is the Nutmeg Metallic car which was built later. There are several known cars whose VIN's are on the list that were sold new as L78 cars as verified by their original owners.

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Whether shipped w/ 427 or not, it'll be surprising if NCRS result is anything but Yenko as Myron noted above.
It could've been Hult sold new as William said, here's one in an Old Newspaper Ad immediately below also other Yenko 427 Nova ads close proximity wise selling used over the years?

There's a few more 427 Nova ads in this 12/20 thread but color wrong or too far away to be as likely...
https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthre...=148069&page=5

Is it possible Dale sold this example as a new leftover after becoming a Yenko Dealer?:hmmm:
If not, it may've acquired the badge when sold there used as the Yellow '69 427 Nova in the 10/70 Ad waaay below?

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Were the 427 transplant Novas available at other dealers?

Did Yenko badge up L78 Novas?

Back in the 1980s, Vince E. said he had a list of 37 1969 L-78 Novas that Yenko ordered and about 30 of them were converted to 427.

As far as I know, the production number of 427 Yenko Novas has always been about 30.
For some reason, many people use 37 as the production total of Yenko 427 Novas but it was always 30.

The list of 37 is thought to be a list for Yenko Sportscars which in some ways was separate from Yenko Chevrolet.

Over the last 30 years there have been other 1969 L-78 Novas that have been found that were sold by Yenko and are not on the 37 vin list.

So we know Yenko had more then 37 1969 L-78 Novas.

I can think of 7 1969 L-78 Novas sold by Yenko that are not on Vince's 37 list.

Cars that I heard of are; one each of a red, blue, black, brown, fathom green, and 2 rally green.
There were probably more then 7 1969 L-78 Novas sold by Yenko in addition to the 37 vin list cars.