70 Z/28
 

Hello, on a 70 Z Norwood car is the vin down by the oil filter like 69's are? I just purchased a barn find car with 66k on it that has sat since 78. The pad has CTB on it but no vin. Thanks, Larry.

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Yes, normally, the VIN is down by the oil filter, although I have heard of several without the VIN. Is this an April build car by chance?

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Hello, on a 70 Z Norwood car is the vin down by the oil filter like 69's are? I just purchased a barn find car with 66k on it that has sat since 78. The pad has CTB on it but no vin. Thanks, Larry.

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Pictures...where are the pictures? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Yes, normally, the VIN is down by the oil filter, although I have heard of several without the VIN. Is this an April build car by chance?

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Hello, on a 70 Z Norwood car is the vin down by the oil filter like 69's are? I just purchased a barn find car with 66k on it that has sat since 78. The pad has CTB on it but no vin


I have an LA built '70 Z and the pad has V0327CTB on it and the trim tag shows 04A but no vin as well (on the pad), could there be a Vin# on LA built cars down by the oil filter? I don't see one and interested possible buyers are asking about it. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Would the block casting date be here on my '70 Z28?

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...sting-date.jpg

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I don't think so, I believe it's on the other side of that rear flange, same syntax just different location. I think your '70 Z should be an 010 block.

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Most of the LA built Camaro's I have seen have the VIN stamped on the pad, not down by the oil filter.

Paul

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Here are some photos. I just bought the car from the second owner. He bought it in 73. He took it to a local speed shop and had the intake, carb, and headers put on for more hp. Then he had the strips taken off. He drove it until 78 then parked it. Its a non ps steering car, m22, RS. Still has the 772 fan, 837 alt, and pulleys. The floors are rock solid with rust issues on the pillars and front and rear glass. I put the wheels and tires on it to get it home. It had US mags. Still cleaning it out. Where would a build sheet be if they had one. Thanks, Larry.

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The other side.

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Exhaust

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photo

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engine

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tag

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Interior

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You should ask the previous owner if he as the original parts for the car. I.E. Air cleaner, valve covers, intake, carb, exhaust manifolds with smog setup, etc. Also the car should have the small rear bumper guards. He might have the stuff laying around.

Good project.

Rick H.

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Question I thought z28 cars were referenced on the trim tag mine has Z28 on the trim tag. I see the emblems on the car but not on the tag...

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Here is mine...http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...r/HPIM0314.jpg

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Some cars did not have the "Z" in front of the 28. I believe you will find the code either way up to around the middle of April, 1970. Somewheres around there.

His tag is correct for his car.

Rick H.

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Hello, the trans is a 661 case with a P code of B so its a M21 and the vin is on the side of the case that matches the dash. The starter is a 418 and dated to the car. The heads are correct 186 and dated also to the cars build date. Thanks, Larry.

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Hello, I have another done Z that is a July car that has the full Z/28.10 on the tag. I'm sure this other one is a Z also. Thanks, Larry

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dang nice find!!! man the old desert heat did a number on the dash pad.

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yep, original arizona interior there.. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif nice find!

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My documented 70 Z only has .28 not Z28 on the tag.
Its an 02c build If i remember correctly.

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So far no one has found a build sheet in a norwood built 70 Z.
There is a guy who has a bunch of body broadcast sheets posted on the net are the vins. His dad used to work at the plant and brought home the sheets for scrap paper for the kids to color on. If you luck out he may have yours. Check the second generation camaro owners group web site.

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My documented 70 Z only has .28 not Z28 on the tag.
Its an 02c build If i remember correctly.

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My 04D Norwood built '70 Z says "Z28.10" on it...

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Hello, I have decided that I will proably sell the 70 RS/Z car. Can someone give me an idea of what its worth. It has the numbers matching engine, m21 trans with vin, and COZ rearend in it. The floors and trunk are rock solid but it has serious rust around the front and rear window area. Thanks, Larry.

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Didn't you just buy this car a couple days ago? Obviously you bought it to flip so you must have some idea of what it's worth. How about the individual you bought it from, did they know what it was worth?

You know what you paid and anything above that on the sale is profit.

Rick H.

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Didn't you just buy this car a couple days ago? Obviously you bought it to flip so you must have some idea of what it's worth. How about the individual you bought it from, did they know what it was worth?

You know what you paid and anything above that on the sale is profit.

Rick H.

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What is your point Rick ? Are you just giving him a hard time because he is selling the car so soon ? How do you know he bought it tp flip ? Maybe when he dug into the car and found the rust he decided it was not the car for him. He is asking what it is worth before posting in the classifieds. I like that he is disclosing the rust and asking here instead of taking offers in the ad section.

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You know exactly what my point is Charley, so I don't have to explain anything. I wasn't giving him a hard time. Normally if you just bought a car like that Z you have some idea of what it's worth.

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He is asking what it is worth before posting in the classifieds

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He just bought it for a certain price so he already had a starting point. Put it in the classified section for more then what you bought it for and wait for the offers.

You want to call me out on the carpet you go right ahead. I don't appreciate it but why would I expect anything less.

Rick H.

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"You know what you paid and anything above that on the sale is profit."

IMO, Nothing wrong with profit. Last time I checked this was still America.

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Charley, with all do respect you jumped on Rick a little hard didn't you? He was just making a point, asking a question. I thought the same thing. Everybody has to have some idea what things are worth if the bought it. I am sure Rick wasn't trying to bust any gonads. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif JMO Sam

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No I don't think I jumped on Rick too hard. He is stating Ibnaz bought the car to flip when we have no idea why he bought it other than it was a neat barn find. I think any of us that stumbled onto that car would try to buy it even if we had no use for it. I assume it went for a reasonable price.


"I don't appreciate it but why would I expect anything less.".... And why would you expect that ?

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Ok, Just thought I would give you my opinion on the matter. I know Rick is a tough New Yorker but does know his business.

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Sam,

Thanks. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Rick H.

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Charley,

I'm not going to get into a pi$$ing contest with you but wouldn't you think that someone who has asked for specific 1970 Z/28 parts in the past and sells other items related to muscle cars would have a pretty good idea of how much the car is worth?? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat...true#Post126932


Nuff said.

Rick H.

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He asked what it was worth so I assume he is asking for opinions. You state he bought it to flip but you don't really know that do you? You still didn't answer my question about "I don't appreciate it but why would I expect anything less". Is there some specific way I treat you all the time or something ?

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Yes, I think he bought the car to flip, what's wrong with thinking that?

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Hello, I have another done Z that is a July car that has the full Z/28.10 on the tag. I'm sure this other one is a Z also. Thanks, Larry

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Nice looking car by the way. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

And lastly, yes.

Good night.

Rick H.

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The Camaro in question needs complete restoration to satisfy most fututre owners. It does not appear to be one of those survivors (ala Jack Seymours 70 Hugger Orange) that can be only cleaned and detailed.
The pictures provided are too vague to draw many conclusions, as to present condition or needed parts (MANY)
Top restored 70 Z-28 Rally Sports, probably can command over $50K......and more
I would think this Camaro including born with powertrain might be "worth" $25K (W.A.G.)......but if car got in EBAY bidding war........who knows ???????
I do want to lend my moral support to Rick H. as I dont feel his comments to ibnaz were out of line. He just pointed out what might well be the obvious. If ibnaz had no intention of flipping, and improves/restores the car, its value will of course increase......so any opinions on current value would be meaningless.

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I'm just curious, and I'm asking a neutral question, so nobody take it the wrong way, but is there something wrong with buying a car to flip for a profit? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif If so I am a bad boy, cause I've done that about a thousand times.

I'll bite at the unrestored value at about 20.

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my opinion $10-15K, but I'm cheap.

And as far as flipping goes, I doubt I'll ever have the spare coin to strait up purchase my dream Motion or Yenko, with kids, morgages, life, and whatnot. But I'm a quarter of the way to flipping my way into one. And flipping is a pretty fun means to an end.

now I'll go back into a dark corner and continue lurking. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif