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Buick GSX
I found a Buick GSX ? yesterday. Under the vin tag there is another tag that reads, Kenne Bell, COPO Super Stock. What is this car? The kid that has this car now traded a dirt bike for the car. I wish that I had his luck. It has a 455 Buick engine in it right now. The prior owner says that it has Stage 1 heads on it. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Monte
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One thing you can do is look for a couple of things you should see on a 455 Stage 1 motor. Chrome valve covers and a Stage 1 sticker on the air-cleaner. Yes they could have been changed through the years, but I would start with those. The Vin # won't tell you if it was a factory Stage 1 X car. Check for documentation (Buildsheet or order sheet). There is a gentlemen who has all records on 70 GSX cars. They way they came from the factory. If you would like this info, PM me and I'll share it with you. The contact is a guy by the name of Wayne Roberts.
In addition. I wouldn't mind owning another GSX. If you end up with the car, or help the gentlemen sell it, put me in line, I would be interested. Patrick Patrick |
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Not all GSX's are Stage One cars. Both 4 speed and auto non Stage Ones were produced. Also, the Sloan Museum has info similar to PHS docs on some of the Stage One cars.
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True, not all GSX cars are Stage 1 cars. 400 of the 678 built in 70 were stage 1 cars. The two things that first stand-out are the Chrome valve covers on the Stage cars. Red on the non-stage cars. And the air-cleaner.
Sloan doesn't have documentation for 70 Buicks. Wayne Roberts owns the documentation. I can tell from experiance when checking on my car. What color is the car. Apollo White or Saturn Yellow? Patrick |
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I'm probably a little biased, but I believe Buicks as a whole are grossly undervalued. The GSX cars should be compared favorably with LS6 and Hemi cars. There are a few resources that will help determine the authenticity of the car. Take a look at www.v8buick.com
In 1970 ther were only two colors available on the GSX: Saturn Yellow and Apollo White. Take a look at the trim tag. Good luck. |
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I wouldn't get sooooo excited just yet.... why would you remove the VIN tag in the first place? KB never campaigned a GSX, nor did Buick make COPO cars. I would have to see a documented pic of this, something is just not right. Iv'e been around these GS cars for 35 years now, and this COPO news is a first...
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As soon as I can get back into town to talk to this guy I will get digi-pics and post them here on this site so that we can ALL be flustered and stumped.There is almost nothing left of the original drive train left in the car . I am sure that it has all been changed out. I did notice that the valve covers were magnesium and had the word "Buick" cast into them. There was no air cleaner and there was a TEN bolt rear end in the car.Probably just the basic carcass is all that is left of the original car. Monte
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I don't know what the original color was but for now it is Bright Yellow. Monte
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I'm probably a little biased, but I believe Buicks as a whole are grossly undervalued. The GSX cars should be compared favorably with LS6 and Hemi cars. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know when you last priced a Stage 1 GSX. I have mine being rotisserie restored with a top Buick restorer. He has been involved with private sales with his clients recently and the prices on the best cars are way up there. 2 have sold well north of 200K recently. Both 4-speed non-air cars. The automatics are pushing 200K. These are the best GSX's out there. Certainly in a class by themselves compared to other X cars. On Ebay last month one hit 186K and the bidders were real bidders. There was alot of discussion on the V8Buick board while the auction when on. There not as expensive as the Hemi E-bodies, but boy their gaining! Patrick |
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Perhaps the Administrators should move this post to "Other Muscle" so the post doesn't get lost later. I don't see anything to do with Baldwin Motion in this one, but still interesting.
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Good idea..I will move it...and i agree with Patrick...these are very rare and valuable these days...killer cars....
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Good idea..I will move it...and i agree with Patrick...these are very rare and valuable these days...killer cars.... [/ QUOTE ] Sorry for the non-sense last week on the Callenger concept discussion Bob. Don't know wait I was thinking. Maybe I wasn't! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/crazy.gif Patrick |
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So does that mean you're gonna send some members rides pics again? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif
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So does that mean you're gonna send some members rides pics again? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif [/ QUOTE ] After last week I'm a little ashamed! Well. Maybe really ashamed. I'll leave that up to you and Bob. Patrick |
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Patrick...it's all good https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif
Send the pics and write up to me at [email protected] Now it's time to get ready to go to BJ again... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif |
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Patrick...it's all good https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif Send the pics and write up to me at [email protected] Now it's time to get ready to go to BJ again... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif [/ QUOTE ] Have fun Bruce! Patrick |
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I have an original owner, all bornwith Sheet Metal and drive train and of course Docs, SY non stage one auto and A/C car which will be finished in about 2 months.
Also have a friend thinking of selling a AW non Stage 4 speed with A/C "X" https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif |
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I have an original owner, all bornwith Sheet Metal and drive train and of course Docs, SY non stage one auto and A/C car which will be finished in about 2 months. Also have a friend thinking of selling a AW non Stage 4 speed with A/C "X" https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif [/ QUOTE ] These cars are starting to bring the attention and $$$ they should! Can't beat 510ft lbs of torque from the factory Patrick |
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I sold my White, Auto, A/C, low mile, GSX for $15,000 in 1997.
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I have an original owner, all bornwith Sheet Metal and drive train and of course Docs, SY non stage one auto and A/C car which will be finished in about 2 months. Also have a friend thinking of selling a AW non Stage 4 speed with A/C "X" https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif [/ QUOTE ] I would sell my Z/28 to finance owning a GSX. I have always loved the '70 GSX and came close to buying one before I found my current car. |
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[ QUOTE ] I have an original owner, all bornwith Sheet Metal and drive train and of course Docs, SY non stage one auto and A/C car which will be finished in about 2 months. Also have a friend thinking of selling a AW non Stage 4 speed with A/C "X" https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif [/ QUOTE ] I would sell my Z/28 to finance owning a GSX. I have always loved the '70 GSX and came close to buying one before I found my current car. [/ QUOTE ] Great cars Dave. Low production #'s. Apollo White or Saturn Yellow. Still cars to be found at the right price! But if I was going to buy one. I would do it soon. Their being gobbled up like all the other rare big-block cars. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif Patrick |
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Patrick...it's all good natured stuff and you were defending those MoPars !....you know I actually saw a magazine article on the new Challenger yesterday ...my son opened it up at the barber shop ! That thing is killer..lets just be glad we don't own Fords https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif
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Did he even say that the GSX in question was a 70? Not sure if you guys know, but 70 wasn't the only year for the X. Also made in 71 and 72, and you could get them in almost any color in 71-72. If it's a true X, and it's a 70, it would have to have the paint code Q-Q (Saturn Yellow) or 10-10 (Apollo White). There are also a couple of little body details that make it stick out from the rest. If you need more info, check out V8buick.com
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Did he even say that the GSX in question was a 70? Not sure if you guys know, but 70 wasn't the only year for the X. Also made in 71 and 72, and you could get them in almost any color in 71-72. If it's a true X, and it's a 70, it would have to have the paint code Q-Q (Saturn Yellow) or 10-10 (Apollo White). There are also a couple of little body details that make it stick out from the rest. If you need more info, check out V8buick.com [/ QUOTE ] All true! How about it. Any follow-up here to this car? Patrick |
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