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Tommy_Mathison 01-03-2006 10:16 AM

69 trunk "splatter" paint process..and floor plugs
 
Any of you with original cars or knowledge... What was installed before the paint was applied, what was installed after? What got coated, and how much? Some of the things I am refering to are:

tail light housings
marker light housings
rear wiring
shock threads & hardware

Any pics would be awesome!!

Also, were original floor plugs galvinized or bare steel?

Thanks!
Tommy M.

JohnZ 01-04-2006 03:20 AM

Re: 69 trunk "splatter" paint process..and floor plugs
 
Drain plugs were originally galvanized, and were installed on the sealer deck, after the first prime oven. Trunk spatter paint was sprayed at Fisher Body, in the blackout booth just prior to the final color reflow oven. The car was nothing but a painted body shell at that point, with no trim or hardware installed; all the items you mentioned (except the upper shock brackets) were installed after paint in the Fisher Body Trim Shop. The upper shock brackets were installed later by Chevrolet. There's a complete raw stampings-to-finished car article on the 1st-Gen assembly process I authored at the CRG site (www.camaros.org); just click on the "CRG Research Reports" button at the top of the home page and you'll see it listed - it's LOONG! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Charley Lillard 01-04-2006 04:21 AM

Re: 69 trunk "splatter" paint process..and floor plugs
 
So I believe what you are saying is the drain plugs were installed after primer but before paint.

Tommy_Mathison 01-04-2006 07:00 AM

Re: 69 trunk "splatter" paint process..and floor p
 
From what I have seen, the trunk latch was installed before the splatter paint was applied so it should have overspray on it.. is this correct? Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks!

Tommy M.

Lynn 01-04-2006 08:00 AM

Re: 69 trunk "splatter" paint process..and floor p
 
Pretty sure the trunk latch was installed even before color. I know mine had black paint on it (10 10 car) when I started and the car had never been painted.

Haven't looked at JohnZ's article in CRG but believe the underside of the trunk lid was painted while on the car, then closed, and the top side painted. Trunk springs (torsion type) were already installed, that is why they have body color on them, and the trunk mounting bolts are always sealed under paint on original cars. So the latch would have to have been installed or the trunk would not have stayed closed to paint the top side. Same with the front doors.

Lynn

Lynn

Kurt S 01-05-2006 06:14 AM

Re: 69 trunk "splatter" paint process..and floor p
 
Lynn,
They had wire hooks to hold body panels open. You wouldn't want the decklid closed the whole way when painting.

Notice how this LA decklid's latch is galvanized, it was installed after paint. NOR's were painted. http://www.camaros.net/showroom/data/2/DSC00081.JPG
(Thanks Jonesy for use of the pic!)

nuch_ss396 01-05-2006 06:20 AM

Re: 69 trunk "splatter" paint process..and floor p
 
Kurt,

How "painted" were the Norwood trunk latches? Was it
overspray, or completely painted? Anyone got any images
of an original Norwood painted latch?

Steve

Tommy_Mathison 01-05-2006 06:30 AM

Re: 69 trunk "splatter" paint process..and floor p
 
Kurt, I am refering to the lower trunk latch. Was it installed during body paint and trunk paint? Thanks!

Tommy M.

Lynn 01-05-2006 06:39 AM

Re: 69 trunk "splatter" paint process..and floor p
 
Thanks Kurt. On a Norwood car, was the lower latch also painted?

Lynn

RamAirDave 01-05-2006 09:23 AM

Re: 69 trunk "splatter" paint process..and floor p
 
The original paint cars I've come across, the lower latch was painted body color, but later had the spatter over them for the most part.

dave

Tommy_Mathison 01-07-2006 03:26 AM

Re: 69 trunk "splatter" paint process..and floor p
 
Black and grey or black and aqua??

Tommy M.

Tommy_Mathison 01-09-2006 12:19 AM

Re: 69 trunk "splatter" paint process..and floor p
 
Anyone? Thanks.

Tommy M.

firstgenaddict 01-09-2006 01:51 PM

Re: 69 trunk "splatter" paint process..and floor p
 
[ QUOTE ]
The original paint cars I've come across, the lower latch was painted body color, but later had the spatter over them for the most part.

dave

[/ QUOTE ]

Same here

JohnZ 01-11-2006 04:26 AM

Re: 69 trunk "splatter" paint process..and floor p
 
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I should have been more specific in my earlier post - on Norwood cars, both the bolted-on deck lid latch (on the body) and the bolted-on deck lid striker (on the lid) were installed before paint. The striker is body color, and the latch is body color and spatter paint. Those were the only separate "hardware" items installed prior to paint (other than the torsion rods - everything else was welded). Photo attached of my original 02D Norwood latch.

Tommy_Mathison 01-11-2006 06:04 AM

Re: 69 trunk "splatter" paint process..and floor p
 
So whats the verdict on the correct color? Aqua and black or black and grey

Lynn 01-11-2006 06:31 AM

Re: 69 trunk "splatter" paint process..and floor p
 
Mine is aqua and black, but a very light aqua that could easily be mistaken for grey. I would take a photo, but these digital photos aren't very good about reproducing subtle shades.

On another note, I noticed John's trunk weatherstrip is "seamed" almost dead center. Mine was offset about a foot and a half to the driver's side and I have observed several other originals to be the same. I don't know that it matters much, just curious.

Lynn

camarojoe 01-11-2006 06:46 AM

Re: 69 trunk "splatter" paint process..and floor p
 
Most untouched original 69 trunk weatherstrips have the seam off-center. There is also usually alot of yellow glue slopped out of the channel and onto the trunk lip, both inside and outside of the weatherstrip. Of course this all depends on who put the weatherstrip in at the factory, but from observation, it seems like it was rarely a process that was given alot of time and precision.

Lynn 01-11-2006 06:52 AM

Re: 69 trunk "splatter" paint process..and floor p
 
Joe:

I was thinking the same thing. Kind of like the post a couple of weeks ago about the engine painter who usually didn't even lose his place in the book he was reading while painting.

Lynn


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