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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1972-Chev...1QQcmdZViewItem

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Notice both front fender bottoms are a totally different color than the doors. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif I know the fenders were painted separately...Could the factory paint be off that much? Would definitely want to examine this one closely.

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Am I the only one that thinks the front fenders are a different color ?

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Am I the only one that thinks the front fenders are a different color ?

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no. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif

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Matter of fact, they are different colors in EVERY pic, even the close-up! Maybe truth to the old adage, "A picture tells a thousand words". https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

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Man you are correct sir those fenders jump out big time. Looks like a nice car but can you take Sherman Tank green ??????

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Hey Mike...it's not green !!!

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Same guy had the 60 Impala http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1960-Impa...1QQcmdZViewItem

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Its gold... 57 paint code is a deep gold/brown. One shade off Autumn Gold which is 58. Shading or an abundence of light can change these gold shades big time!

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another nice car but with him fiddling around with them and painting stuff you cant believe the miles anymore...

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I dunno..the docs supporting the mileage look fairly solid to me.
http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/bi.../2CIMG1638.JPG
It only showed 236 miles in September of '76. Doesn't look like Amelia strayed too far off of Wilshire. Neat ol' Chevelle for sure...even if there has been some fluffing. That's the closest I'll ever get to 1972.

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should have worded it a little different just my personal thing..would like to see a motor left unpainted in low mile cars..the old it is what it is thing, dont get me started on photo shoots of nice cars and the drivers side floor mat is crooked and loaded with debri....lol

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"This Chevelle has been a one owner, lady owned car for most of it's life."

If most of it's life meant till 1975..That pink is dated 76,and it's signed off in the SECOND owners name with an addy in Hartford CT..

"It was sold new at Hanson Chevrolet in Los Angeles, California to Amelia Zeiser who stored the car in a climate controlled warehouse on Wilshire Blvd since new"

LOL,That "climate controlled warehouse" is actually an apartment building with a humid subterranean parking garage.


Bandini meter pegged in the red https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/blush.gif this guy will never cull interest with that L65,it would be worth 10k more If Amelia had popped for an LS5 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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My LS6 has the same darker fenders with original paint. The paint is so thin the paint is darker with the black underlying primer than the doors/body over the grey primer. I'd say its original!
Mark

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I remember that on yours Mark.
Interesting that this Time Capsule has silver accented turn signal,Hi-beam & parking brake indicators around the Speedometer.
On this car,I would like to see it in person better and see if they are indeed Vacuum metalized or Testors paint pen.

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Who was the knuckel head that installed the hood pins? They were only on ZL2 Cowl Induction flapper hoods. Non flapper cars did not get the pins, at least on the 396 and 454's. If the 350 did then it's news to me.

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In 1972,the hood pins were standard on ALL Chevelles with the Super Sport or Heavy Chevy package,regardless of engine size or hood design.

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This same car has been on eBay a time or two before.

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You have to remember that the front clip was not attatched to the rest of the car when it was painted. Even thought paint from the same batch was supposed to be used the environmental and spray conditions were probably not the same. With heavy metallics (even if the paint came from the same can) differences in humidity, air pressure at the spray gun, gun distance from the panel, and spray pattern could cause the paint to lay out differnet or the metallic to settle different.

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Mark is right on about the paint difference on the front clip. These cars were off a little when new, more evident with certain colors that did not cover well over different color primers like GM used on these cars. (brilliant) If the paint was a color that covered very well (solid colors or metalics with heavier base makeup like fathom green or dusk blue) the difference in primer color did not show up. GM cars had this going on from the inception of acrylic lacquer in '57 right up thru the late 70's. This car is likely original paint, I'd be suspect if fender/door match was dead on as they never were.

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Would the HD side post battery have been correct for this car?

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Yes,the Delco Side terminal R89 was the standard in 72.

My Very first Car was a Pewter Silver w/blk gut 72 SS like this one.Same options and all.Sold new from Fencl-Tufo Chevrolet in Beautiful Glendale Heights.
I still have it's Buildsheet & Pix.
I need a tissue...

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Shouldn't the trim around the instruments be chrome? I have sold a few of the repop dashes and all of them have the silver painted trim. This one looks like a repop.

I just looked at an original dash and it's chrome trimmed.

Rick H.

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The dash trim was originally Vacuum Aluminized metal,and only a few mils thin.
Driveway mechanics use Testors today.

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The dash trim was originally Vacuum Aluminized metal,and only a few mils thin.
Driveway mechanics use Testors today.

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Ok, it still looks wrong.

Rick H.

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The paint being different colors on the main body and fenders was typical for the Camaro. Fisher painted the bodies, and the fenders were painted and assembled in another area/building by Chevrolet. This may also be true for Chevelles.

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Weird part is the lowers of the front fenders look darker...almost like they were spotted in...

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Weird part is the lowers of the front fenders look darker...almost like they were spotted in...

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I noticed that too... Mismatched original paint should be mismatched everywhere, not just on the lower fenders below the stick-on side moldings where the fenders tended to rust first. As I said, could be original, could be spotted in... Would need to see it first hand to convince me it hasn't had paint work on the bottoms of those fenders.

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The dash trim was originally Vacuum Aluminized metal,and only a few mils thin.
Driveway mechanics use Testors today.

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I have a new dash for my '70 and have inquired to plastic chromers to see if they could do mine and I keep hearing no so I guess it's the Testors method for me too... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

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There are folks that vacuum metalize....I can't remember the names offhand but I'm sure someone will pipe in...

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Too bad they lie about the milage, cause its a "nice" car..weird color, but different as such.
look at the pic of the e brake handle..sun bleached,but the rest of the dash is mint?
411 miles = perfect showroom inside out un re-touched. Which this is not.

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There are folks that vacuum metalize....I can't remember the names offhand but I'm sure someone will pipe in...

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I'd sure like to know because I do wnat that original,chrome look.I've seen others do it so I know it's possible... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Too bad they lie about the milage, cause its a "nice" car..weird color, but different as such.
look at the pic of the e brake handle..sun bleached,but the rest of the dash is mint?
411 miles = perfect showroom inside out un re-touched. Which this is not.

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I think the flash from the camera is making it looked washed out...this pic looks okay...?

http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/bi.../2CIMG1525.JPG

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The entire fender look like a different color to me. I think its legit.
:. The buildsheets on the frame help support the low milage in my opinion.

Jason

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If it is true milage then it needs to be driven 89 more miles to be officially broken in.
I'm just curious to know how someone could have this car this long and not have driven it.
Low milage, like 3-5k or under 50k or so is one thing, but under 500?
I always wonder how its possible...that car logged 12.5 miles per year?

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Those %#*(@# parking brake releases turned white if they never saw the sun. Dont go by that.

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Wait a second. Let me figure this out. 411 original miles???? Hmmm.

Ad says original woman owner since new her name Amelia, bought in 1972 in California. I see a 1976 registration for a Cris Carrier as the legal owner who lives in Hartford, CT. The other owner flew out to CA from CT to drive the car and then leave it in CA? You do the math.

Did two owners decide that this small block Chevelle was worth saving for the future? Plus look better then it did new?


Are we to think this car was towed on a trailer everywhere all it's life??

I myself do not believe it.

Rick H.

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I always wonder how its possible...that car logged 12.5 miles per year?

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You have to remember that the front clip was not attatched to the rest of the car when it was painted. Even thought paint from the same batch was supposed to be used the environmental and spray conditions were probably not the same. With heavy metallics (even if the paint came from the same can) differences in humidity, air pressure at the spray gun, gun distance from the panel, and spray pattern could cause the paint to lay out differnet or the metallic to settle different.

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Perhaps I can shed some light on the process for painting the cars in an Assembly Plant since I have approx. 30 years experience in the Paint Shop in an Assembly Plant.

During that time frame, the sheet metal was on a seperate carrier from the body. Also the Sheet metal was "Dip Primed", where the body was Elpo coated and spray primed.
However there was a "Marriage Point" where the sheet metal carrier and the body carriers joined up in sequence so they both went through the paint booths at the same time, sheet metal ahead of the body.

It is my opinion from looking at the photos that one of two things might have happened during the painting process.

1) As the fenders were being processed the Reciprocators that spray the Metallic "Dust Coat" to eliminate the "mottled" (Dark Splotchy appearance) ran out of paint, or were shutdown prematurely due to a mechanical issue and never completed their final strokes on the fenders. That's why the rear lower portion of the fenders shows the most "Off Color" area.
(Recips are mounted in the spray booths and have "Arms" that move in a vertical up / down path with automatic spray guns attached. As the cars go by they paint the sides of the cars and apply a uniform coat of paint that properly orients the metallic flake in the paint to eliminate mottle)

2. The primary color coat applicatios failed to paint the rear lower fenders and part of the upper fender area also. This caused the off color (Dark areas) on the fenders due to the fact that the recip coat does not apply enough paint to achieve "Color Hiding" by itself.

In either instance there is insufficient "Film" build (Paint Thickness) to achieve a proper color match.

Unfortunately, I have been witness to numerous occurrances such as that in our Facility over the past 30 years. Not to say it was OK to ship something like that, but the reality of the situation is that some got out the door back then.

Quality Standards being what they were in the late 60's and early 70's it is not suprising to see a car like that make it out of an Assembly Plant and to the customer.

Additionally as has been pointed out previously, since both sides exhibit the same appearance, it was definitely a "Factory Error" that you see on that car.

Just wanted to share my knowledge with you concerning this and give my opinion of what may have happened.

As for my opinion of the mileage, well perhaps the lady who bought the car didn't like the paint job and couldn't get it repaired by the dealership, so she just decided to park the thing instead of drive it. .........

Just my 2 cents worth ........LOL


Bogusracer

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------Cars are not always put away just because someone thinks someday they will be collectable. More often or not, if the car would not be deemed collectable when new then you can figure the car was stored for another reason. Death comes to mind, along with overseas job postings, as well as long term health problems, and many more. When a car is put away for reasons other than purposely keeping it forever or for future monetary gain then all bets are off as to how the car will look when "discovered" years later.
------I once bought, out of the Boston Globe, a 55 Belair 2dr.H.T. with 1100 or so miles. The original older purchaser had passed away 2 years after the car was new. His wife didnt have a drivers license and rarely went in the garage where the car sat. When I first looked at it there were gallon and quart cans of paint glued to the hood with leakage from the improperly replaced lids. All the chrome was mediocre and the tires were absolutely rotten. The cars mileage was undeniable, however, when you looked at the interior.
------The car had to be painted and I tracked down all the chrome NOS (remember this was 1972) to bring it back to an acceptable standard. Sh** happens, so weather this car has the 400 miles or not dont jump to hasty conclusions. It doesnt benefit the seller or you..........Bill S