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Jughead 10-24-2004 10:05 PM

WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Or any leads as to where I might find one. Looks like this one.
[email protected]
http://www.photohost.org/gallery/dat...se_003-med.jpg

GM-26 10-24-2004 10:27 PM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Two weeks ago, a NOS one sold on e-Bay. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif
The next one that I see for sale, I'll let you know. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

Jughead 10-24-2004 11:21 PM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Thanks, each time I look there I come up empty. Bad timing I guess.

do you remember how much it went for?

GM-26 10-25-2004 12:03 AM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
My memory isn't the best and I already removed it out from my "watch list". It was definitely over $200.00.

Is that the engine bay to your car?


John 10-25-2004 12:47 AM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
...was this it....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/shocked.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/shocked.gif

GM-26 10-25-2004 01:01 AM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Yes! That was the auction! As I said, my memory isn't that good!!! WOW! $510.00 You would have thought that number would have stuck in my head! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

Jughead 10-25-2004 01:24 AM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
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My memory isn't the best and I already removed it out from my "watch list". It was definitely over $200.00.

Is that the engine bay to your car?


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No, here's my engine. Just finished building her about a month ago.



http://forums.corvetteforum.com/phot..._carb_0021.jpg
$510! Yikes, A little outa my price range. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

GM-26 10-25-2004 01:30 AM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Very, very nice! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

COPO 10-25-2004 03:40 PM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
These are pretty easy to find on ebay. Used ones seem to be in the $50-$150 range, however, I saw an NOS one sell on ebay last week for $150, so there are deals if you are patient.

GM-26 10-25-2004 05:20 PM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
I sent you a private message, regarding an air cleaner.

Jughead 10-26-2004 01:36 AM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
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crash 10-26-2004 06:12 AM

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Picked these up the other day at a swap meet, is this what you're looking for? Crash e-mail me [email protected]

crash 10-26-2004 06:13 AM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
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Bottom view of same. Crash

Jughead 10-26-2004 12:46 PM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Yep, I emailed ya. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Verne_Frantz 10-26-2004 07:10 PM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Not meaning to ruin anyone's deal here, but I believe the ones with the snap ring on top are Cal Customs. They also have a shinny base with a fitting. Looking closely at ones on original cars, I believe those used by Motion were Stelling & Hellings. They had a chrome removable band with tabs at the ends for a small screw and nut to hold the band tight. The base was also a dull "spun" finish, with no adaptor tube.

I bought one over the counter from Joel in '69 for the 396 I had in my '62, and that's the one he sold me. Just my experience.

Verne

JoeG 10-27-2004 01:08 AM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Verne,
I did see some Stellings & Hellings,some Mr.Gaskets with a flat snap ring,some Cal Customs with a snap ring with pry loops( I still have the original on the car, no smog tube adapter) dome air cleaners(the earlier ones were used without the smog tube adapter,but were used later as the EPA laws were being enforced. One thing the early dome air cleaners do have in common is a top screen with round holes and no smog tube adapter. Other style air cleaners wre used ,but the standard PhaseIII package offered the dome air cleaner,which the customer could modify.

Verne_Frantz 10-27-2004 01:26 AM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Joe,
I'm glad you offered your memories on those. I really liked the looks of that air cleaner on my car. And since I also had a set of Hookers and a few other odds and ends on the car from Motion, of course, I had to have the M/P decal on the 1/4 window. That was the thing to do in '69. (or 2004). The best things never change.
Verne

MosportGreen66 10-28-2004 03:01 AM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Like this one?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...sPageName=WDVW

whitetop 10-28-2004 05:28 PM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
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I believe those used by Motion were Stelling & Hellings. They had a chrome removable band with tabs at the ends for a small screw and nut to hold the band tight. The base was also a dull "spun" finish, with no adaptor tube.



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Verne
the style you are refering to was made by Mr. Gasket and was their early first design version. It was availabe from '66- to around '69. Mr. Gasket then discarded the large band and went to the flat snap ring arrangement. Cal Custom used the wire shaped ring.
I don't think Motion ever used Stellings & Hellings. S&H was more of a west coast distributor. Motion was a distributor for Mr. Gasket and Cal Custom so why use a third manufacturer?.

Verne_Frantz 10-28-2004 05:39 PM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Mosport,
I can't tell for sure from the photo, but that one appears to have a snap ring around the edge. Maybe it's just reflections of something else. Mine had no snap ring. The outter band was split with two metal 90deg tabs tack welded at the ends. The tabs had a hole in them for a #10 (I think) round head slotted machine screw and nut to tighten the band together. The base was merely a dish with a very slight vertical edge, just enough to capture the bottom domed screen. Then the element layed in there with the top dome screen on top. You had to squeeze it together as you fitted the chrome band around the pieces, then held it together while fiddling with the screw and nut. It wasn't exactly user friendly but it sure was cool looking and of high quality. I always thought of Cal Custom stuff as a little lower quality, mainly their plated stuff, although some of their pieces were done well...(like the valve covers). Just my opinion.
I have a couple very old photos of mine on the car back in '69, but I no longer have the piece itself.
Verne
I sent JoeG an old photo that shows the piece lying on the ground next to the car, but if he posts it, I'll have to kill him.............. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/blush.gif

Jughead 10-28-2004 06:55 PM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Was the filter itself a thin foam?

Verne_Frantz 10-28-2004 07:42 PM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Jughead,
It was a dark gray foam. The domed screens were not chromed, as in the earlier post. It looked exactly as the one in your first post, although I can not see the tabs on the band in that photo.
Verne

JoeG 10-28-2004 09:18 PM

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The foam elements would tend to ignite,with a carb backfire if you didn't change them or clean them now and again --The elements were/are pretty cheap, but I would just take it out run it under a hose and squeeze out the excess--I never had one lite up--Here's some photos of those air cleaners----Stelling and Hellings-- https://www.yenko.net/attachments/104338-shhhh.jpg

JoeG 10-28-2004 09:21 PM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
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pry loop/tab--- https://www.yenko.net/attachments/104339-loops.jpg

JoeG 10-28-2004 09:23 PM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
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flat-band -- https://www.yenko.net/attachments/104340-flat.jpg

Mr70 10-28-2004 09:30 PM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Wasn't it the flyeye that was notorious for immatating a candle wick in the case of a backfire?
Who posted pictures of Vernes Car on Team Chevelle? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

JoeG 10-28-2004 09:32 PM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
I guess it depended what air cleaner they had on the shelf that day,although the Stelling and Helling was the earliest---Verne, I would never post your photo,I did however send copies to Team Chevelle etc.-- https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif--- https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

JoeG 10-28-2004 09:34 PM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Yeah--It's how the HABACHI came to be---

Verne_Frantz 10-28-2004 10:05 PM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Yeah, by the time I stopped using it, I had my share of carb back fires, and the foam had a big hole in the middle of it.

Thanks a lot Joe https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif Now I guess I'll have to go read the wise cracks about my shoes. (You didn't really do that did you.........????) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/blush.gif

JoeG 10-28-2004 10:08 PM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
No I didn't----,but Rick would https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

JoeG 10-28-2004 10:51 PM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
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You're right Whitetop, the domed air cleaner I showed as Stelling&Hellings, is probably a Mr.Gasket knockoff of S&H.-----S&H had their name on top of the dome--- https://www.yenko.net/attachments/104370-STELLING.jpg

Pantera 10-29-2004 03:07 AM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Was there some that had square holes in the grid instead of round ones that were made later? I seem to remember seeing them way back then?

My '70 came with a triangle shaped air cleaner instead of the round one and it has the square holes. It also has the foam that will catch on fire if you have a backfire.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

JoeG 10-29-2004 04:14 AM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Larry,
I remember those---and since Motion sold parts also, you could mix and match the parts, but the standard PhaseIII package started you off with a Dome air cleaner---I stuck with the Dome (Cal Custom)the car came with, it was up to the buyer.---

Jughead 10-29-2004 04:59 AM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Have any for sale?

hvychev 10-29-2004 05:17 AM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Verne post the pics! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif

Verne_Frantz 10-29-2004 04:56 PM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Frank..........................I don't know how to post pics.

JoeG: Your investigative tenacity is impressive. I guess mine must have been the Mr. Gasket version. I have some old speed equip. catalogs too, and thought I remembered seeing a Stelling & Hellings pictured that did not have the emblem on it. Not completely sure. I'll have to dig around this weekend.

Jughead: I apologize for my part in this thread going off in it's own direction. I know you're still looking for one to buy. Hopefully, since the thread has had a lot of traffic someone will be willing to part with one for you.

Verne

JoeG 10-30-2004 07:57 AM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Jughead did you find an air cleaner or did this "HIGH TECH" discussion of dome air cleaners make you decide to sell the car--- https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

jfkheat 10-30-2004 02:27 PM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
Is this the one you are looking for?
James

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...sPageName=WDVW

Jughead 10-30-2004 04:23 PM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
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Is this the one you are looking for?
James

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...sPageName=WDVW

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Yeah, that one has been posted already. Read the sellers comments.

Jughead 10-30-2004 04:24 PM

Re: WTB Motion air cleaner assembly.
 
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Jughead did you find an air cleaner or did this "HIGH TECH" discussion of dome air cleaners make you decide to sell the car--- https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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I enjoyed the history lesson.


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