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Mr70 08-24-2004 07:24 AM

MOTION SIGN FOR SALE
 
I can't Believe This is For Sale.Get out your Check books! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif
MOTION SIGN ON EBAY

Charley Lillard 08-24-2004 07:37 AM

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wow...would look good in my new barn. Or on it.

55chevy 08-24-2004 07:48 AM

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Does anyone have any vintage pics of this sign in "Motion"? would like to see it.

GM-26 08-24-2004 08:00 AM

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I pass the old "Motion" building all the time. Because, Sunrise Highway is a main drag here.

That "Motion" sign stayed on the building for a long time after the shop closed. When Joel Rosen lived on Long Island, we both lived in the same town and when I heard he was closing the shop for good, I was going to ask him if I can purchase the sign from him.
I was surprised that neither Joel or an employee didn't remove it. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

Musclecarkid 08-24-2004 08:12 AM

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Somebody email Verne Frantz, that MOTION sign is in his hometown. Heightstown NJ is 30 miles from me if anyone wants me to look at it for them.

Mr70 08-24-2004 08:13 AM

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He is well aware of this auction.

JoeG 08-24-2004 08:24 AM

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I've got a black/white memory--so it's https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif to see the sign again--
When Joel was getting ready to close down the store and move next door to the BMW(old Billy Mitchell VW shop) I would stop in from time to time and he still had old Motion packaged parts ,Motion ladder bars etc still on the racks. He would say Joe take what you need, I did take a few things I could use, but really didn't want to go thru the place with a nap-sack https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif--I know someone had paid for the Motion Supercar Club sign in the shop--maybe $1k?- It was kinda sad--It officially meant the Motion Era was over------Real https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif item------

Mr70 08-24-2004 08:30 AM

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I'm Glad you here Joe.I thought this would interest you more then most.
What Month/Year was that you speak of?

camarojoe 08-24-2004 08:33 AM

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif Damn, thats cool...I knew i shouldn't have went and blown all my money on some stupid supercar... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

JoeG 08-24-2004 09:02 AM

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Rick----He was still offering mechanical work and parts at the Motion Shop at least till '93/'94 -----I started doing some work in L.I. on a regular basis in '97 and he was already in the old VW shop,but not doing mechanical work, when I would stop in to say hello, in fact that's where he showed me his '73 Motion Vette and his Mako-.-He always took the time to talk to you --at least it was my experience.
Man Joe, you sound just like my future wife in '69---Scary https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

55chevy 08-24-2004 12:20 PM

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Joe.. How cool is it to be you man and have such memories. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif Wish you could make it to SCR7. Sure would like to see your Chevelle. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Verne_Frantz 08-24-2004 05:30 PM

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Yes Gentlemen,
I am the owner/seller of this sign. I had planned to post something this morning to let people know, but Rick beat me to it.
I had emailed Rick last night to let him know it was coming up. I did that because Rick had posted a question quite a while ago about the possible existance of the (a) sign, and I participated in the discussion. I wanted to let Rick know that I wasn't playing games back then, when in fact I already had the sign. I didn't. I had only heard of where it was and had very little accurate descriptive info on it at the time.
When I finally purchased the sign, I had every intention of keeping it, since it meant so much to me, so I kept it to myself. But I've realized I just don't have the proper space to have the sign come to life again to be enjoyed.
I just hope it gets preserved properly. It stands for so much!

I tried to take very good photos, but if anyone wants to travel and see it in person, that would be fine. Just PM me, and we'll coordinate a visit.

Verne.

Mr70 08-24-2004 06:03 PM

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I am reposting this Picture JoeG put up here recently.Just to show the color scheme of the building as explained in the auction.

https://www.yenko.net/attachments/80189-mb2.jpg

JRSully 08-24-2004 06:23 PM

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In refererence to that picture that Verne just posted of the Motion shop. That sign was hung on the western wall of the bldg just above the "Cornbread..." sign. I believe it was there until the Wheel guys into the shop. I saw it personally many times in the colors that are on it now.

camarojoe 08-24-2004 07:04 PM

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I bet I could get the Cornbread sign alot cheaper. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif

55chevy 08-25-2004 12:47 AM

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If Joel is looking at this... I'll be he regrets leaving his signs behind.... now https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

SuperNovaSS 08-25-2004 06:29 AM

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He may, if the sign gets a bid. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Mr70 08-25-2004 07:22 PM

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For the ones who asked me,I have learned from another that Joel Rosen has said this was the Sign on the West side of the Building.
Now how does one go about Tapping into ones 401K. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/laugh.gif

DarrenX33 08-25-2004 07:57 PM

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Rick just sell your car. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

Mr70 08-25-2004 09:54 PM

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From what I'm hearing,I'd still be short on funds! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/Charley.gif

DarrenX33 08-25-2004 10:04 PM

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

JoeG 08-26-2004 07:00 AM

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Just Around the corner https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif https://www.yenko.net/attachments/955...ion%20sibn.jpg

COPO 08-27-2004 12:52 AM

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Looks like a site member has stepped up to the plate.

4MyChevelles 08-28-2004 05:04 PM

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That sign sat with the Car I was looking for ...Called the fun city hauler ...If you remember the post about it ...I was sworn to keep quiet ...But I see it's out in the open now

396L35 08-31-2004 05:31 AM

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Now we know who has all the money.... Congrats Rick... Bring it to the reunion, Mark https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Supercar_Kid 08-31-2004 06:25 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
Bring it to the reunion

[/ QUOTE ] You said it, should we save some room for this sign to be in the memorabilia display area this weekend? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

Verne_Frantz 08-31-2004 06:30 AM

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My congratulations to Rick as well! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif
I know it went to a good home, which was all I had hoped for.

And by the way, that sign never sat with a '57 Nomad! Where's that "BS" flag when I need it......

camarojoe 08-31-2004 06:45 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
Where's that "BS" flag when I need it......

[/ QUOTE ]

It's here Verne...
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

Jeff Murphy 08-31-2004 01:56 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
Now we know who has all the money....

[/ QUOTE ]

You mean, used to have all the money... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

DarrenX33 08-31-2004 05:08 PM

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Not gonna happen unless we tie it to the roof of my Outback. What do you think Rick? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

4MyChevelles 08-31-2004 06:37 PM

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I tried to reply to this earlier ....Look I dont BS I know what i'm told I knew about that sign last year and it was sold within the last few months From what I am told ...I was looking to pick it up myself ....
Say what you want but I am very serious about the history of These old Hot Rods and that sign ended up in jersey from the island not too long ago ...I was told the sign and the Motion items I own came from the same source ...which was the previous owner of the 57 .....
If I am wrong a simple email to me and I would correct my statement I only know what i'm told ...

You don't know how many trips and phone calls to Long Island I have made in the last year researching this stuff
too bad I got some bad information .....

I can say this for sure If that sign never spent any time with Nick ...(The last owner of the 57)He sure knew who the owner of it was and where that sign was sitting,,
and i'll bet Joel is PO"d that it was'nt offered to him ..Now thats just my opinion ...
any comments
[email protected]

4MyChevelles 08-31-2004 07:21 PM

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in fact if you look back in another post about the sign you will see that I had to say it was a plywood fake ...because the source that I have asked me not to say anything about the sign after the post was made..I had no way of removing it ...........Now OK that was,,, If you really have to look at it ...BS ...but I was given no choice but to say I had no idea of it's where abouts ......

Verne_Frantz 09-01-2004 06:59 PM

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For those who might be interested, this is the history of the sign as honestly and accurately as I know it from the day it was removed from the Motion building, based on what I was told.

A good nearby friend of mine grew up on L.I. and was close friends since high school with "Steve" (the fellow I bought the sign from). A couple years ago, my friend related the story Steve told him of picking up the sign the day it was removed from the building and destined for the trash. Steve took the sign home and put it on the ground in his back yard. It was there for maybe 4-5 years.

Back when I posted a question about "Richie Zul's" '63 Impala (which I had wrong, and meant to say "Richie Brown"), I also emailed Joel asking him for information about the Impala. In one of those emails to Joel, I mentioned that I knew the whereabouts of the original sign. Joel's reply was just a curious question about how the guy had acquired it. I told him the story as it was told to me, and he didn't really say anything else except "interesting". …. So, Joel had knowledge of the sign surviving long before Rick's later query as to whether the (a) sign existed. Someone with that question contacted Joel, and his reply was "looooong gone". It did not appear that Joel had any interest in the sign himself, or he surely would have asked me (the only lead he had) more about where it was. I don't believe that indicates I gave Joel any inconsideration at all. Joel was the very first person I told about the surviving sign. If he had told me he wanted it, I would have done my best to help him get it. I have a lot of respect for him.

When Rick's topic came up about whether a sign existed, I only had vague details and a poor description of it, so I made my own inquires about what it might have looked like, to compare to the descriptions I had heard. I asked my friend if he would contact Steve and ask if he would consider selling the sign to me. The answer was yes - but for a high, non-negotiable amount. Apparently, Steve was interested in purchasing another high priced street rod from an estate sale. I went to Steve's home on L.I. in April and bought the sign. Steve had a small house with a 2-car garage that was filed with another hot rod and a '48(?) Pontiac. There was no shop and no access to the back yard for another car.

After hearing the statement that the sign had shared space with the '57 Nomad, I made other inquires and learned that Steve had also been good friends with "Nicky", who used to work at Motion and also had owned a '57 Nomad. I was told Nicky had died about a year ago, the Nomad had been sold, and Steve didn't know where it was, although he had a few contacts that might have known. Steve said he was contacted by "someone about a month ago" about the Nomad. No mention was made that that person saw or was told about the sign.

So, according to what I had been told, there was no indication the sign had ever shared the same space with the Nomad. It sat in Steve's back yard from the day he brought it home till the day I bought it. So, unless I was lied to, along with his lifelong buddy (which I doubt), that's the truth, as I know it, so I stand by my statement. If different facts surface, I'd be as interested in hearing them as anyone.

Regards,
Verne

Mr70 09-28-2004 03:01 AM

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I would like to Publicly Thank Verne Frantz,& his Lovely wife Janet,for their Hospitality they offered me this last weekend.They really made me feel welcome after I personally drove 15 hours one way to Bring this Iconic Symbol of American Muscle Car history Home to Illinois safe & Sound in my own Vehicle.
Cross Country Shippers would have destroyed this Fragile sign within minutes of acceptance.(No Disrespect meant)
Vernes Tenacity in acquiring this sign from the begining have to be recognized as well. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif
The sign itself has exceeded all my expectations,and as I stare at it here now,the wheels are in "MOTiON" to have it illuminate as it once did,and possibly the letters brought back to there original shade of Red,if not they will be left as is,not Substituting them,...and that's it.
Plans are to maybe bring it to VetteFest this November,and then SCR8 next summer.It deserves to be seen and touched,not stored away in a container.
It really does give me goose bumps staring at it,& I hope it will to others in the Future.

Thank You Verne Frantz,for all you've done,& continue to do. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif
Rick Peters
P.S...Pennsylvania has got to be one of THE most Beautiful Scenic States I have ever driven through!

Charley Lillard 09-28-2004 03:32 AM

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Some people bring their cars to a show, Rick brings his sign. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

JChlupsa 09-28-2004 04:14 AM

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Do like the Blues Brothers did with the speakers, Mount that baby to the top of your car and drive to SCR8. Make sure it is wired so it will light up on the trip down and back!!!

JoeG 09-28-2004 04:55 AM

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Really https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif piece------------ https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Steven J 09-28-2004 06:52 AM

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How did you make it fit in your car ?

DarrenX33 09-28-2004 05:19 PM

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I understand he opened both the drivers and passenger side windows. Slid it thru and drove with his hazard lights on all the way. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../stupid198.jpg

Verne_Frantz 09-28-2004 07:29 PM

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No,
We packed it a little more carefully than that.

Glad you made it home safe and sound Rick. I know exactly what that tingling feeling is like that you're having now. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

It was a pleasure meeting you. Hope I didn't bore you with all that '62 crap I have lying around. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

Verne


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