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These photos were taken by my father Frank in 1969 when he was 19 years old. The first one is of a 69 Camaro Z28. His buddy went to see his girlfriend that lived in Brookfield IL and this car was parked out front. Notice the rear stripes that someone went through the trouble to paint all the way down before they even changed the wheels & tires. Strange huh? Several members saw these pics in person at Vette Fest in November.

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This one caused a lot of controversy. It is a 67 Camaro raced by Statmary & Seltzer and if you look closely at the front fender it has lettering that says ZL-1. The pic was taken in July 1969 at Great Lakes Drag Strip in Union Grove WI. How early did GM offer ZL1 crate motors? I don't want to hear any skeptics say that ZL-1 might mean somthing else. Why else would a race car in 1969 have ZL-1 painted on it's front fender? Does anybody remember this car?

BTW do any of the day 2 experts know what kind of wheels the front ones are?

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I have a really cool pic of a 68 RS SS that my mother has in her scrapbook that has snow tires on the back that I will post this weekend.

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Frank
Really neat pics. The front wheels are American Racing 12 spoke "Crows Feet" Mostly used on lighter weight gassers, front engine rails etc. Hardly ever see them on full body cars because they were not that strong. They are only 3" wide and were spindle mounted, not by lugs.

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Glad to see you got those pix posted Frank.
I know we talked about these at VF,but does the ZL-1 designation on the 67 Camaro mean that was what its engine was,or was it just for scare factor??
Post your other picture too please. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Nickey Chevrolet of Chicago was selling crate ZL1s but I have no Idea how early in the year.

It is very likely that they would have had some of the first crate engines available as they were the highest volume GM Dealership performance parts outlet in the Counrty.

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great pictures thanks for posting!
Bill Grumpy Jenkins had a ZL1 in late 68. He was getting back door help from Chevy Engineering and had best of Chevy parts. The ZL1 was in his 69 L78 Super Stock Camaro and failed tech at the first race he brought it to. They failed him because he could not prove 50 were built and sold to the public. Chevrolet had not yet supplied the info to NHRA. I was told this by Da Grump in person.

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That is true JoeC. Jenkins actually used a 1967 aluminum block. He said that this block was probably the best one he really had. If Joe Satmary had any relations with Chevy, he could have been given a couple of blocks ot try. These motors had a lot of ring and cylinder failure. Sam

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Frank,
I'm not sure who/what Salmary & Seltzer was, but Van Senus has had a few auto parts stores in northwest Indiana for many years (still in business) and it seems they sponsored many race cars going back to at least the early '60s. I believe they were one of the major sponsors at U.S. 30 dragstrip as well. I'll ask some of the old-timers around here to see if they might remember the car. I've heard some of these old warhorses are still around, still in race-dress.

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I had asked a lot of people about this picture and nobody knew anything about Statmary & Seltzer. One of my buddys who was racing in the early 70's at The Grove & US 30 told me that Joe Statmary was pretty popular around that time. He told me that they had a series of the "We Haul" cars that he campained at the local tracks.

Chris I researched Van Senus Auto Parts about a year ago and like you said they are still around and have been in biz since the 40's. I talked to a couple of people at a few of their locations but was not able to get any answers. I don't know if you can see from my scaned pic but it says that Van Senus Auto Parts Hammond IN.

What do you guys think about the pic of the Hugger Orange Camaro Z28? Is it possiable that those stripes were painted like that by the factory?

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Frank,
Correct about the Joe Satmary "We Haul" cars. He used to run in a Super Stock circuit out of the Chicago area. We booked the guys a few times for shows at the old White Hall strip and they put on a Hell of a show. Hemi Darts and Cudas and a bunch of Kick-ass Camaros including Satmary.
I still have some old fliers promoting that group and will dig them out and send you a copy. Thanks for all the vintage photos. You really have me wondering about the Gasser pix. A friend of mine had a '38 Chevy Coupe that looked exactly like the one you posted. I think your pic might be a '37 though. I need to look up a shot of Don's L-88 powered Hugger Orange '38 named "Rip's Snorter".

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Hey Frank, If that stripe scheme on the car was a prototype, I think it look's great, and would have made a great Z option.......Joel [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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I believe the Jerry MacNeish book states that custom colors and striping were possible. Pretty sure the book shows a baby blue Z with striping down the tail just like your picture. Another thing is for sure. I know from my experience being around them. My brother and all his friends did custom paint jobs. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]

Hmmm. No centercaps.
Great pix Frank...

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No way is that stripe factory. Someone did it afterwards. Same with the baby blue Z, it was done at the dealer.

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The baby blue z with that paint, was bought that way and owned by a member of this site. As kurt states, not factory. Roger

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I stand corrected.

Frank- I have some pictures of my car from 1972 complete with lace paint that I will be scanning tonight. Also one of my brothers 71 Z/28 from 1974. Will post tomorrow. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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Another cool [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] pictures of The Camaro 1967 " The Enforcer "
B&W picture taken in 1971,in Montreal. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif[/img]


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Looks like a 1969 Chevelle White Vinyl top in the backgound??

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...............and a brand new 70 AAR Cuda. Those were the days. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif[/img]

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This picture was taken April of 1970 Notice the two 70 camaros the 69 ZL-1 and the 69 funny car

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This is a picture of Herb Fox sitting on my car 1970

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This is a picture of Herb Fox today and Connie Gibb

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Very Cool Pics, keep'em coming [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

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Kim Awesome!! This is exactly what I wanted to acomplish with this thread. Kim the pic with Herb on your car is cool. Totaly period complete with a piece sign and all! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Guys keep the vintage pics comming! Lets see some Vintage Yenko Camaro pics. I am still going to post a couple more when I can get them scanned.

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Cool picture [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img]
Top left corner Dick Landy LO Dart ???

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Damn good eyes [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img]

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Picture of Herb Fox sitting on your 1970
V is for Victory or Peace.....
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This is a picture of Herb Fox sitting on my car 1970

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Great picture. I guess we now know who to blame for all these "split bumper" non RS Camaros that are out there! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Back in knowing Herb it was for PEACE also non rs split bumbers weigh less that was the name of the game then. The car also ran NO front brakes same as Porterfields car [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif[/img]

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Anyone know where that camaro is today? Even if not...would make a great diecast car! the 70 molds are in place already!!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif[/img] oops i am sorry just another silly thought [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img]

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I have owned the car for 8-9 years I hope to have it at the reunion this year. Kim

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Here is my car in 1972. The 2nd owner frequented Oswego Dragway. He even has a victory trophy to prove it. He is supposed to give it to me when he finds it in his room full of stuff along with the POP.

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2nd

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My brothers 71 Z/28 in 1974. Must have been drunk when I scanned it. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

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cool pictures! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif[/img]

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Darren awesome pics!!!! Day 2 to the max! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] How did you get them?

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Neat pic of your car it's nice to have them. Kim

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These pictures are from the 2nd owner. While I was restoring my car (1989) I did a title search. I looked up numbers for all the owners and called them. I was never able to find the 1st owner. I did talk owner 2 and 3. I have developed a friendship with the 2nd owner over time. After the car was finished I drove it to his house for him to see. I even let him drive it. It was pretty special for him cause that day was his wedding anniversary and him and his wife dated in the car. They really appreciated it. Anyway he was the one who gave me the pictures. He says he has the protect-0-plate somewhere in his house. He will give it to me when he finds it.

I have heard that the original owner was a mechanic at Olaf Gjovik Chevrolet in Sandwich Ill. The car was special ordered for him.

I swear I have slides somewhere of a 70 SS Chevelle from the 1970 Chicago Auto Show (or world of wheels). Have to dig around for those.

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I swear I have slides somewhere of a 70 SS Chevelle from the 1970 Chicago Auto Show (or world of wheels). Have to dig around for those.

Now that would be cool! Start diggin! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img]
Rick

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Ok I'm on it.

If I come thru am I eligble for a star?

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Stars.... Ask and you shall receive? Thank you.

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