Scottsdale Pavillions Car Show Permanently Cancelled
 

My wife just found an article online saying that the weekly show at the Rock & Roll McDonalds at Scottsdale Pavillions has been permanently cancelled, effective immediately. I suspect Cold Beers & Cheeseburgers (as per Rick's excellent video coverage) will see an increase in business, especially this fall.

This is pretty sad news. It was a great place to host such an event. I was also fortunate to be able to attend at least 12 events late last year and early this year and met Rick and few other people from this site.

I have to give Rick credit for all his efforts as part of the "Derelicts" giving visibility to this event through all his pictures. Now onto some Cold Beers & Cheeseburgers as Bill said.

Here’s the article:
https://www.citysuntimes.com/news/sc...5a8b9357d.html

I found two holes in this reporting, so this is not a done deal. Also, CB&CB will not be a permanent replacement should Pavilions go away. City of Scottsdale limits the amount of outdoor ‘events’ a business can host. Also, when football season starts, they won’t have room on the parking lot.

Pavilions could hold as many events as they wanted because it is on tribal land. Scottsdale’s silly laws do not apply.

As I was typing this, I just remembered I have a phone number for one of the 'organizers’ and just sent a text.

Anyway, not a verified done deal yet. There are actually 3 parties of ‘organizers’ and without a name published in that article, I’m skeptical it is accurate.

Confirmed from two sources, RIP Pavilions;

Closure of the Rock and Roll Car Show
at The Pavilions at Talking Stick

We regret to announce that the Rock and Roll Car Show at The Pavilions at Talking Stick will be permanently closed, effective immediately.

For over three decades, this beloved event has brought together car enthusiasts, families, and community members to celebrate classic and custom vehicles in a fun and welcoming environment. We are incredibly grateful for the years of support, passion, and memories shared by our loyal participants and visitors.

This decision was not made lightly, and we want to extend our heartfelt thanks to all who have contributed to making the Rock and Roll Car Show a Saturday night tradition.

While this chapter is coming to a close, the spirit of the car community lives on, and we encourage everyone to continue supporting local events and gatherings that celebrate the automotive world. We highly encourage event patrons to visit Cold Beer & Cheeseburgers Saturday Car Meet Up at Pima Crossings in Scottsdale on Shea and 101. https://www.coldbeers.com/cheeseburgers/car-shows/

Thank you for being part of the journey!

I hate to hear this but it’s happening everywhere. Not just the bigger venues like this but our local Friday or Saturday night get togethers.
Getting where we don’t have anywhere to meet up talk n enjoy our hobby. I sure hope Summmernite Cruise keeps on going.

I really enjoyed this the few times I was out there visiting. Glad I got to see it.

The folks at Cold Beers and Cheeseburgers are currently figuring out a way to take over the former Pavilions car show. Lots to work out with Scottsdale and the other tenants in the shopping center.

CB&CB is about 3-4 miles north of Pavilions on Shea Blvd and the 101. It’s a smaller lot, but at least it’s a place that wants us to come to every Saturday.

I figured the writing was on the wall. First when the place was sold years ago is usually never a good thing for events like this. Then when they issued a curfew a few years ago, then the insurance problems and possibility of charging a fee to enter came along recently, I could just sense it was coming to an end. Oh well, it'll put a dent in all the business it brought to the area every week. The beer burger place isn't big enough to host all the cars the pavs attracted. Luckily there are literally dozens of cruises all over the valley every weekend and since I come from Prescott it doesn't make a difference if I go to the East valley or the West valley. Well just hit the other cruises more often. Plenty of places that still welcome us.

Thanks for all the great pics Rick...I've enjoyed them bud!

It's been my pleasure. I'll just have to shoot cars at other places.

Why did they decide to end it?

From what I understand, it all came down to expenses.

When Mark Kramer owned the McDonalds, he basically paid for almost everything, including event insurance. Since his passing, two other owners have taken over that McDonalds over the years, none of which had any interest in funding the car show.

That left the landlord to fund it, and did so for a few years. However, a few slip n fall type law suits along with funding extra security to patrol the later hours of stupidness made the show too expensive for the landlord to continue funding it. That's when an event group was hired in 2024 to run it. That group was to eventually fund the show and make money off of running it, which never happened. The late night silliness continued which pissed the landlord off, so they decided to cancel it.

There are more details that contributed to the downfall, but that's for another day.

I hope that the "late night silliness" does not follow into Cold Beers & Cheeseburgers.

Thanks for filling in the blanks. Such a shame, but I guess I understand.

The events that were so good for so long here in Austin were eventually cancelled due to stupid activities by people. The liability from a car losing it and hurting someone is too great for a business to absorb.

Would it really be the business at fault though if it's happening on a public street? Once you're off the "private" property you're pretty much on your own. So liability is kinda gone at that point.

In all honesty, if something happened to your car on the property, McD's isn't going to be responsible for it anyway. Things have happened at the pavs before and I don't recall hearing McD's stepping up for the repairs.

I'm not trying to sound like a jerk but the whole ordeal got way over complicated. Most people I've talked to already knew the owner wasn't a fan. Far as I'm concerned, the current owner, or may have been the previous after Mark since it's been a while, I've talked to her, and I got the vibe she wasn't interested in any of the car activity and that's when I quit spending money in the place. I enjoyed Barro's Pizza more anyway and would just walk over there and get my food. I knew it was a matter of time. Hope they enjoy the drop in business on Saturday nights.

In Austin, it was burnouts in the parking lot, they tried to curtail it, but it kept happening. Yes, an incident would be directly tied to the business, and they could be held liable. Even the police couldn't keep up with the riffraff doing burnouts. I don't like the liability situation, but it is a fact, and it ended our fun.

Lol yeah burnouts in the parking lot would be an issue. I never witnessed that at the pavs in the 20 years Ive gone. Not saying it didnt happen but I never saw that. Would be hard to pull that off as there were always cops walking the lot and watching the traffic. I never saw any remnants of burnout activity on the property either.
Now out in the street was a different story. But I see that nearly everywhere. I would typically pull out the back way towards the fields. Not so much because of the horsing around, I just preferred to avoid the traffic.

Adam’s Polishes has stepped up to host half of the car shows.

Well this is unfortunate. I'm one of the many snowbirds who looked forward to taking in Pavilions during the winter months when we were in Arizona.

RIP, it sure was fun while it was running.