When they ban gas cars
 

Has anyone ever wondered what would happen to our classic cars when they ban gasoline? I see all these WEF/NWO freaks talking about this and it sure makes me mad! Would we just have them parked in our garage to look at? What would this do to the value our them? This has bothered me lately as I have seen all these control freaks talking about banning all petroleum and going all electric with everything by 2030...aka Agenda 2030.

Most people forget the petroleum isn’t just gasoline but a wide range of other products as well. Frankly I don’t think it will ever happen, or can rather. Between all the other talking points the world revolves around oil and we aren’t the only ones pulling for it. To ban gas means to shut down a very large infrastructure of our economy and I can’t see it being anywhere near ready by that timeline. They may place a higher tax ICE vehicles or bring back emissions testing in states that have done away with it. Maybe I’m trying to convince myself of these things but in the end if they do ban gas, I’m for seeing a much larger problem at hand then what happens to classic cars.

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The internal combustion engine has a long life ahead of us. Too many variables, technology advances, and political agendas that can change.

Just remember, life is very short and if you are always worrying about the future it'll never come!!!

Sebastian Vettel will be doing a demo lap in an F1 car of the Nordschleife running a carbon-neutral fuel: https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a4...n-nurburgring/

So even if traditional gasoline is someday banned or heavily taxed, there is motivation in a lot of applications to still have a liquid option (like in a screaming V8!).

There are multiple threads in the lounge where I reported to the forum that banning internal combustion engines and parts was the plan.

I was told by many members that "it would never happen".

look at where we are now.

So they are going to ban gasoline huh. Goodbye aviation industry. Sorry to see the Military go with it. Trucking industry - see you. Transportation industry - you served us well.

If they ban gasoline, they have to ban diesel along with it.

Here is my prognostication on the matter . . .

They will discover "warp speed" before they ever ban gas and diesel. Should happen around 2123.

Change is always a slow process and at the same time can seem really rapid :) It all depends on technology.

Think of horse to auto/tractors, steam to diesel RR, passenger ships (and rail) to airlines, land line to cell phones etc.

But we still have horses for pleasure, stream trains are loved and restored (Big Boy 4014!), a healthy Cruise line industry (sort of, and the sad story of the SS United States). Land lines, no so much health there.

So the gas cars to electric will be gradual, but when you look back it will seem to happen overnight.

But the ICE industry will slowly move from the everyday transport to more niche uses. EVs and robotaxi's will be commonplace in Urban areas first. Rural, towing, Trucking and farm use will move more slowly. This of course is already happening and will accelerate.

Keep in mind that if there is a seismic technology breakthrough things can change in an instant! When is the last time you bought (or saw) a paper map in a service station after the advent of GPS and map apps.

Then if someone develops a cheap, powerful, environmentally neutral battery tech, progress will move very fast. I mean if Rivan/Tesla could drive/tow for over 500 miles for $20K, wouldn't you think about it? :D

"In the year, 2525, if man is still alive" Bu Zager and Evans.

I talked to a friend who is a Urologist, he said in the next 10-15 years guys who drive EV cars will be developing testicular and prostate cancer. He said sitting on top of a battery that powerful, it’s inevitable.

Pay close attention to what this guy says. His friend is informed and correct.

That shouldn't be a problem with future men....just following the trend.

The earth will be a wasteland.

:grin:

But seriously, I read an article about a Canadian city simply rule booked vintage cars off the road, rendering them unable to be re-registered for street use, even as updated resto-mods, citing "safety". Much the same way they are going after gas stoves here in the U.S. These "leaders" have to go.

Gasoline powered cars aren't going anywhere. The market will slowly move toward EVs but by the time gasoline is no longer a viable energy source we will all be long, long gone.

Try to see it as a "follow the money" issue rather than a political issue. There is still a lot of money to be made by oil companies slowly raising the price (see: 1973, 1978, 2008, the recent inflation binge for shareholders to cash in, etc.). Also, fossil fuels are in almost everything produced on earth, or somewhere in the production chain. Until fossil fuels are too expensive to consider I would say that gasoline powered vehicles will be around a long time. Again, as long as there's money to be made.

And what Canadian city is that?

New gas stations are popping up all around me and the places I travel including the enormous "Buc-ees" fuel stations. I'm not too concerned with a major change anytime soon. Also, I use Ford transits for the work I do, the Ford dealership has electric transits and they supposedly are good for 100 miles. Commercial EV's are going to have to do a lot better than 100 miles before they replace a gas burner. I put over 120,000 miles on last yr. No EV is ready for that.

Tommy

I live in Canada and have never heard of that! Googled it too and nothing…

That is a scary thought.

I know a bunch of people who work for auto companies and EV companies and they don't see us even hitting 50% EV anytime soon.

I met the President of Siemens Energy USA and he shared to me a project they are working on: https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/p...etic-gasoline/

Please post the link. Towns don't register vehicles, province does. So this will be overturned IF people actually protest or fight back for the simple rule as discrimination. If it's legal by the province its legal.

From that article: "...Porsche plans to electrify 50% of its new-car offerings by 2025, making use of both battery-electric and plug-in hybrid technology."

I have been touting the plug in hybrid technology for three years. Most working folks (68%) have a commute to work of less than 15 miles. Our commute is 18 miles. We use no gas for our normal commute. We have cut our overall gas usage by 90%.

They will not ban classic cars outright.

They will just carbon tax you if you don’t agree to permanently disable it.

That’s the plan.

Yeah…..I definitely don’t see the ICE going anywhere anytime soon. Especially here in southern Wisconsin where they’re building Kwik Trip gas stations everywhere!!!

Kurt

I must type quickly and quietly ... I know the city you speak of, it's ... wait, I heard something at the door. Shhhhh ....

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They'll try to ban guns before they will successfully ban gas powered cars.

I'm not a member of the conspiracy club, but I think if any state goes after ICE it will be California. I just don't think it will happen with all the folks who drive trucks and live in rural areas.

The question that you should ask is what is the bigger plan more importantly why?

America rose to economic preeminence on oil. We got neat things like Muscle cars and the freedom to drive virtually anyplace we can afford to go

China has no oil. What China has however is rare earth minerals.

"Cui bono" means "who benefits?" If you are in line with Agenda 2030 then you are all for this transition.

Proud to say that I am not and for all the accurate reasons. Stossel is instructive:

Agenda 2030 is 100% real...they want us jammed all together in big cities...ever hear of "15 minute cities" This stuff is not conspiracy at all, its their plan. Be aware! Remember WEF's Claus Schwab said "You will own NOTHING and be happy". They are buying up all the land, guess who owns billions of acres of land?...THe Royal Family....GUess who owns the most farmland in the U.S. , its Bill Gates... They are using their monopoly printed fake money to buy up all the land. Own the land, control the food, rule the world.

Bill Ford, on electric cars: Not because we have the infrastructure, not because they are unaffordable to the majority, not because there is a demand for them, not because there are no plans to make 10-20k priced cars, but because the Chinese will dominate the market if we don't.

Ford is correct if someone is going to force you to buy something. You see we do not have the infrastructure as we are currently configured. The average home has 100 amp service.

THATS why they want you in a 15 minute city. Because you will ride share and use mass transit.

Therefore, the "they" who will "ban" gasoline powered vehicles are the automakers. "They" will fight for market share/dominance that could require, due to market forces, the slow elimination of gasoline-powered vehicles--UNLESS gasoline-powered vehicles generate sufficient profits to allow them to be continued in production.

Follow the money. Always.

Hard to disagree; money drives everything.

As fuel taxes plummet, states weigh charging by the mile instead of the tank

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/as...5a70ea68&ei=24

No big deal.

Let’s treat the domestic infrastructure funding like the global financial system manages other funding issues.

Print it and hand it out.

My BIL is VP at General Motors Defense. All wheeled military vehicles are going to go EV because of the battlefield advantages over gas or diesel.. Every military defense contractor on the planet is going EV including China.

General Motors Defense hired Hendrick Motorsports of Nascar fame to build the new vehicles.

My BIL cannot give out specifics but said the batteries they are developing now will charge in just a few minutes and be a quarter of the weight and size of current batteries and 1200-1500 range will be commonplace and anyone will be able to replace them in a few minutes without any tools. He said they cannot keep up with the battery advances.

China is patening a battery that loses no charge in sub zero weather

Toyota said their 2025 models will charge in 10 minutes and have a 650 mile range and by 2028 want a 6 minute charge and a 900 mile range.

Tesla is coming out with a 25k model next year.

The main reason car co's are going EV is the labor cost is a third and parts cost is half of a ICE car. Has nothing to do with saving the environment.

Honda said they will save billions a year in warranty claims alone. No more complicated fuel, ignition, cooling, trans to go out. EV Motors have one moving part.

A client owns a large Chrysler dealership. The field rep told him when EV's take over the will only need 25% of his current techs.


As Rush Limbuagh always said "Follow the money" All about minimizing expenses and maximizing profits

There are 48 million private owned homes in the US.

What 3 trillion man Army is going to kick out all the people and push them into cities like cattle??

Every country in the world has programs with incentives for people to buy homes. World,wide private home ownership is at record levels even in China and private home ownership increases each year

Bill Gates does not even come close to owning the most farmland in America. He owns 270k acres. A guy out of texas owns 2.6 million acres. Total famland in almost 900 million acres.

My auto industry contacts think that we'll be at most 50% EV in 20 years.

Tax per mile is obviously aimed at EV's. They'd actually double dip on hybrids/gas/diesel vehicles, getting tax per gallon and tax per mile.

We were chatting about the banning of gas cars in this thread... however we can discuss in significant detail the plan to use climate alarmism to enslave the vast majority of the planet, well we can do that too.

It's very well documented. You can read UN Agenda 2030. In fact as far back as 1996 Mikhail Gorbachev stated the exact agenda driving climate alarmism:

“The threat of environmental crisis will be the international disaster key to unlock the New World Order.” He was underscoring the importance of advancing Marxist objectives by creating an emergency to convince people they must surrender freedom to be safe".

This idea has been parlayed over the decades into a global campaign to control vibrant economies.

Currently here in America, it is being served up as the "Green New Deal".

Seriously... we can have this discussion... it will be fun and entertaining.

By the way my contacts within GM say in unequivocal terms that GM is going to go Bankrupt for a second time... it's just a matter of time now.