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napa68 08-01-2022 03:02 PM

1967 Olds 442 Preservation
 
A while back, I was searching around for some miscellaneous small items for my Dad's 67 442. At that time, I had promised to start a thread once I started working on the car. So, here we go.

We found this car back in late 2015 / 2016 here on the forum. With the help of a forum member, we got the car inspected and thus purchased. It's a 26k mile largely untouched 4 speed car. A few forum members are familiar with the car as it was at 2016 MCACN and judged in Vintage Certification. At that time, Dad and I elected not to do ANYTHING and take it there just as purchased (aside from coolant hoses which are repops). The idea being, we'd learn about the car for what it was. Dad and I both car not Oldsmobile guys and did not want to fluff it or change anything to suit a judging standard. At the 2016 MCACN show, we met Paul (Canuck) and learned a tremendous amount about the car.

Fast forward to this summer, the original fuel pump started to leak. I had the car shipped up by me not only to repair the fuel pump, but to complete a very sympathetic cleaning of the car. Being the fiddler that I am, I determined the carb could use some attention (accelerator pump was out to lunch). After a simple rebuild of the car, and some ignition tuning, I am SHOCKED how good this car runs!

Here is a photo dump of some details of the car. I'll drive it through the rest of the summer, and really jump on this over the winter months. In fact, this car (along with a couple others I have in my shop right now) may push me over the edge into dry ice cleaning. We'll see about that.......

One question I have though...........
Are the VIN stampings on these cars rather light (much like Norwood produced 69's)? I can not really see anything where the VIN derivative should be. Same can be said for the transmission.

If there is something else of curiosity, just let me know.

Tim

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napa68 08-01-2022 03:03 PM

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Steve Shauger 08-01-2022 04:30 PM

I remember that car like it was yesterday. I was blown away at how well preserved the car was. Thanks for sharing!!!

Canuck 08-01-2022 06:24 PM

The Olds looks great,just as I remembered it. A lot of the underside will clean up with a solvent like Wash n Wipe. I use it in a spray bottle and lots of disposable rags. After that cleanup spray on Boeshield T-9 for preservation.
As for vin on parts Olds did not have a practice prior to 1968 of stamping components with the vin. Your numbers on the head are the indenting mark for a 442 engine.

olredalert 08-01-2022 08:35 PM

----I have loved 67 442's since the day they came out! The minor changes from 66 just really made the whole line of Cutlass's stand out above the rest of the mid-size GM's to me. 66 and 67 were such pivotal years design wise for all of GM IMHO!!! Love seeing this almost untouched 67 with it's original pinstripes and beautiful original gut.....Bill S

PeteLeathersac 08-01-2022 10:44 PM

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W:eek2:W, what a great car also such perfect candidate for your plans!
Really looking forward to the different processes and results w/ each step, especially dry ice cleaning if you try it.
:beers:
~ Pete

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DW31S 08-01-2022 10:53 PM

Awesome car. I remember it also. At the time, my garage was busting at the seams and literally, had nowhere to put it, so I never pursued buying it.

scuncio 08-02-2022 01:09 AM

Wow, that is mint.

67since67 08-02-2022 01:31 AM

I am without words :eek:....except...for a change...right car, right owner!!

Will look forward to your preservation work on this one Tim!! - Bill W

67 442 08-02-2022 01:45 AM

The vin would not be on the trans but the # on the trans would match the POP.
I looked at this car at your dads a few years ago and I would love to look at the underside for a few hours. The car has flaws that show how they were off the line.
The red tape on the positive cable is correct from the factory.
Neat car that should be preserved.

60sStuff 08-02-2022 03:36 PM

Tim and your Father …… Awesome Survivor!

These type of cars (not messed with, Factory Original) are the best on the planet, period.
I love the two-tone seats.

I just had a little fun trying to decipher the trim tag.
I’m sure you have already done this a long time ago.

05B = 2nd week of May
33807 = Sports Coupe
393-B = vinyl / blue / strato bucket seat
D-2 = Crystal Blue / Black Vinyl
W = tinted windshield only
L = 4 speed floor shifter
G = sports console
V = 442 trim

I hope I got that right ?

Thanks for sharing and I have subscribed.

Chris

napa68 08-02-2022 11:31 PM

Bingo!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 60sstuff (Post 1597153)
tim and your father …… awesome survivor!

These type of cars (not messed with, factory original) are the best on the planet, period.
I love the two-tone seats.

I just had a little fun trying to decipher the trim tag.
I’m sure you have already done this a long time ago.

05b = 2nd week of may
33807 = sports coupe
393-b = vinyl / blue / strato bucket seat
d-2 = crystal blue / black vinyl
w = tinted windshield only
l = 4 speed floor shifter
g = sports console
v = 442 trim

i hope i got that right ?

Thanks for sharing and i have subscribed.

Chris


69L78 08-03-2022 10:23 AM

Tim, Is this the car from PA?

napa68 08-03-2022 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69L78 (Post 1597208)
Tim, Is this the car from PA?

Yep......I think you looked at it for us

DW31S 08-03-2022 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69L78 (Post 1597208)
Tim, Is this the car from PA?

That’s where I remember it was…

69L78 08-03-2022 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by napa68 (Post 1597220)
Yep......I think you looked at it for us

Yes Tim, That was me, thanks for refreshing my memory.

GrumpyJeff 08-03-2022 09:44 PM

WOW ! what a Car ! anybody remember where in PA this car came from ? sold new ?

napa68 08-04-2022 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrumpyJeff (Post 1597258)
WOW ! what a Car ! anybody remember where in PA this car came from ? sold new ?

Here ya go.......
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ScottG 08-11-2022 04:52 PM

That is a fantastic car!! Wow..Great purchase.

napa68 11-09-2022 04:06 PM

I got the fuel pump back from Fred Ballard a few weeks ago. Since I'm at a standstill on an engine build (waiting for parts), I thought I'd toss the pump in today.......

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Thanks to everyone who helped me out with the hose clamps on the return side of the fuel pump. FWIW, I am still in need of 1

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I think the original belts are going to need replacing after 55 years

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grantprix 11-17-2022 12:55 AM

Wow!!
 
First time I've seen this thread, what an amazing 442 survivor!! I didn't realize these style fuel pumps could be restored, I'll have to look into this for the original from my GTO.

ScottG 11-17-2022 04:45 PM

Those crimp style pumps are used on Fords too, they can be rebuilt to look new.

napa68 11-17-2022 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grantprix (Post 1605592)
First time I've seen this thread, what an amazing 442 survivor!! I didn't realize these style fuel pumps could be restored, I'll have to look into this for the original from my GTO.

Fred Ballard
661-251-2362

He's the guy!

grantprix 11-18-2022 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by napa68 (Post 1605650)
Fred Ballard
661-251-2362

He's the guy!

Great, thank you for that!

napa68 12-06-2022 06:04 PM

Back on the 442 today. I got the speaker out to send for reconing, and dropped the tank to clean and get the build sheet.

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napa68 12-06-2022 06:13 PM

Here is a scan of the build sheet.

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napa68 12-06-2022 06:22 PM

One question I do have.....did these cars go through a "black out" process? Just noticing where there is paint, and where there is not.

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The standard gray paint found on the front of the spirals

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No paint found on the front of the brake lines

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67 442 12-07-2022 12:36 AM

I know Lansing cars did.

WILMASBOYL78 12-08-2022 02:07 PM

442...
 
Great thread...thanks for sharing. :beers:

-wilma

olredalert 12-08-2022 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67 442 (Post 1607652)
I know Lansing cars did.

----I agree, but Lansing cars were a bit spotty at best in my bit of knowledge....Bill S

grantprix 03-15-2023 04:07 PM

Any new updates or photos? Love this car!

napa68 03-15-2023 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grantprix (Post 1617514)
Any new updates or photos? Love this car!

Crash has the tranmission right now. The trans was a little noisey and tough to get into reverse when warm. I suspect after all the years the car sat, there is a bearing inside that got pitted up in spots.

Been working on a couple of things including a new aquisition for myself. Details to soon follow.......


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