1969 z/28
 

Up until about 5 months ago this was a one-family owned car (Hank Koldenhoff) in Niagara Falls, Ontario. He bought it at J Holland Motors, Ltd. in Burlington, Ontario according to the GM of Canada documentation. Hank got himself a very low option Z with Style Trim Group, M21 Muncie and the Z23 interior woodgrain trim and not much else. It is a pre-X code car with flat hood and no spoilers, being an early 10D car. Sadly Hank passed last year and the family was left to deal with the car.

The car retains an impressive list of its original parts including distributor, radiator, carb (though June '68 dated which is a stretch, but possible), deep groove pulleys, alternator, starter, positive battery cable, BV 4.10 rear, all 5 (five) AD rally wheels (09-20 dates) and the numbers matching born-with VO1024 DZ engine.

The transmission is a bit of a mystery. The family members have no recollection of the car ever needing trans work. But the VIN is 528195 on it (best I can see) and this car is 529996. So if the transmission was replaced in the 70's or 80's they hit a home-run with the replacement because it is a 1969 M-21 from a Norwood Camaro built within 48 hrs. or so of this car, thus perfectly dated to it, at October 19th, with its original tag in place and it is equally dirty as the motor. GM of Canada has no record of a 1969 Camaro with a VIN ending in 528195 and also 528195 unfortunately falls outside the roll of VINS with info available from NCRS so I cannot rule out that this trans is from a real Camaro. My gut tells me its an assembly line mis-stamp, but then again numbers are numbers. According to CRG this car is one of the early ones that would NOT have had a sub-frame proportioning valve. It is missing its original 309 master cylinder but the 276th day 1968 9204 booster is the original. The grill is black so it's been replaced.

IT IS A RUSTY CAR. Partial quarters that (from the outside looking down the side of the car) look great! Big patches in the floor, and the rockers ends are bad at the meeting with the outer rear wheelhouses. The bottom of the driver's door is toast and the seam is rusty along the bottom of the passenger door. Bubbling at the roofline along the drip rail molding. The rear rails are nice and solid and the trunk floor has only two minor issues - a dime sized hole on one of the contours and some attention needed at passenger side shock mount. Fenders, hood, cowl area, trunk lid all look quite solid.

I drove it on a side street by my shop and though the engine and trans are covered in oil and grime it idles and runs good with no smoke, knocks or ticks (see youtube link). The brakes are dangerously bad and it seems to dislike second gear. Might be clutch, might be shifter, might be both.

I momentarily thought of doing the brakes etc. and bombing around in it, but I need another project like a hole in the head and the thought of touching those crusty brake bleeders is a no-go. It's an early Z in good colors with most of its original stuff so I figured somebody here might be interested.

I can meet someone ON THE CANADIAN SIDE in Sarnia at the Blue Water Bridge (Michigan) or at one of the New York crossings with the car, your choice. There are plenty of links on here and around the internet on how to get a car across the border from Canada to the USA, it isn't hard. It's just some paperwork.

$38,500

YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0F-bRZXs20

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Trunk

Wow. Now that is a nice find.

Documentation

J Holland sure sold some muscle!!!!

I wish I was body specialist

Great restoration candidate with it original, spendy parts in tact - terrific find Des and with Canadian documentation!

Nice find. Still has a flat hood. No spoilers. Lots of original parts.
Glad so see it being sold with a PROPER description. This is the kind of car that, three gallons of bondo and a quickie paint job down the road, is sold by SMT or the like as a "true low mileage survivor with one repaint."

I agreed. Great car!

Regarding the date code on your Holley, My 1969 Camaro Z28 Van Nuys 09D (1968) car that came very original under the hood with all smog, battery cables, Wittek clamps came with a 863 dated Holley with a V0913DZ engine assembly. My rallys were K 18 8-9 AD. Nice car.

Canadian money or real money?

Good deal either way.

1969 Camaro
 

PM sent.

Ben Franklins :)

The vast majority of the rockers themselves, and the pinch welds (see pic above) and door posts on this car are quite solid. The passenger rocker is eaten in here in this spot but surgical metalwork would take care of it. It is the ends of the rockers at the wheelhouses that need attention - again my vote is for surgical metalwork (or just do the brakes and clutch and suspension rubber and drive the thing):

Firewall seam and lower firewall. Car also has all original reverse back-drive linkage. As usual most pics are upside down no matter how small I make them :(

FYI; My 10B Oct 68 Z has a Holley carb dated 872; So 2 months before final assembly.

Rear date code and BV stamp

Nice find Des. Could be a great project for the right buyer

Notice this 10D of 68 built 1969 Z28 has the curved top, upper ball joints. Used on 1967 & 68, but also on early 1969 production as well.

I think this car would benefit from a dry ice blast from tip to tail.

Then replace some sheet metal here and there, without restoring the whole car….. do the mechanicals and drive it.

This Camaro sure has some positives!!! No spoilers, buckets no console, docs, history, garnet red, 4.10’s, original parts, etc, etc

Ryan W31

I have sent out the calipers and brake cylinders for rebuild. Got all the bleeders freed up which astonished me... didn't even break those crusty brake lines. Taking a hair off the original rotors and fitting new pads, freeing up adjusters etc.. New clutch on the way and the M21 is out on the operating table. Shifter getting some TLC. It is going to be a driver in short order.

Every gasket seems to be weeping on this 302 but i am not tackling that. Leaks are character lol

Has anybody seen examples of a 3791021 flywheel with the number partially stamped and the 021 numbers cast?

Did you send the calipers to a place on the 403 close to Fruitland?

Love that your getting this car ready to enjoy!!!

Ryan W31

You know it! John Stuart

Yup that’s the place, I did a few hot laps for Cutlass brake parts to and from there.

How has this project car not sold? Original example, bullet-proof documents, good (popular) colors, original drive train. Checks a lot of boxes.

I am lobbying Des to keep it till spring so can ride get my first in a Camaro.

Ryan W31

Ryan, just write the cheque and you can be the cool kid in Elora!

Thanks
 

Tracker 1: Thanks for taking the time to accurately describe with pictures the originality of parts and condition of car. It is refreshing to see such an effort....On behalf of everyone or most, thank you!

Thanks
 

Tracker 1: Thanks for taking the time to accurately describe with pictures the originality of parts and condition of car. It is refreshing to see such an effort....On behalf of everyone or most, thank you!

https://youtu.be/mDpnRyPnCSg

IT RUNS, IT DRIVES, IT SLICES, IT DICES!

Parts & Progress

Exterior

More outside after road test.

One

M21 Rebuild

What a great cruise night car.

She is so cool with no spoiler and the flat hood!!


Ryan W31


PS: We live within an hour of each other... I am buried in snow and you are driving a muscle car?