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whitetop 02-07-2019 04:28 PM

Huebner Chevrolet #69 ZL1 Before and After
 
The guy who restored the Huebner Chevrolet Last Zl1 built has been posting on FB. Very interesting.
Car was totaled in the early 80's and sat until 2003 when Randy restored it. Car is not completed yet and has not been yet seen in public. The only piece of outside sheetmetal saved was the drivers side door.

Randy has posted hundreds of pics on FB.Complete ownership history, etc

The cobweb stripes was painted on by famed painter Greg of Akron

whitetop 02-07-2019 04:33 PM

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William 02-07-2019 04:51 PM

That makes 49 known to exist. Too bad the M22 trans was sold out of it years ago.

Car was built with 14 x 7 rally wheels. No idea why it is shown with XTs.

FB link?

Ryan1969Chevelle 02-07-2019 04:51 PM

I have been watching this closely, he even posted a detailed list of previous owners with phone numbers and home addresses..... yikes, even I don’t share that much!!

Ryan W31

HawkX66 02-07-2019 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by whitetop (Post 1434169)
The guy who restored the Huebner Chevrolet Last Zl1 built has been posting on FB. Very interesting.
Car was totaled in the early 80's and sat until 2003 when Randy restored it. Car is not completed yet and has not been yet seen in public. The only piece of outside sheetmetal saved was the drivers side door.

Randy has posted hundreds of pics on FB.Complete ownership history, etc

The cobweb stripes was painted on by famed painter Greg of Akron

What a shame. That was quite a hit. Re-bodied ZL1 isn't a ZL1 anymore IMO though. It's a new Camaro with a transplanted ZL1 drive train assuming that was saved and installed. Age old argument I know...
Either way, it's going to be beautiful for what it is when completed.

whitetop 02-07-2019 04:57 PM

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whitetop 02-07-2019 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by William (Post 1434175)
That makes 49 known to exist. Too bad the M22 trans was sold out of it years ago.

Car was built with rally wheels. No idea why it is shown with XTs.

FB link?

Randy found the original trans. Said the current owner stopped talking to him after he posted all the pics. Guess he did not want people to see the before pics

William 02-07-2019 05:03 PM

That it was wadded up was the worst kept secret in the hobby. Several people saw it-one of them bought the trans. I have a letter from a previous owner describing the damage.

whitetop 02-07-2019 05:08 PM

I have a FB page covering the history of cars in my area which includes Huebner Chevrolet.

Randy has 3 or so threads about the car on my page. Lot of Hipo cars in my area came from Huebner

He also posted it on 70's muscle cars and street machines page on FB

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Whee...rCultureScene/

HawkX66 02-07-2019 05:17 PM

Do I see Z28 emblems in a few of the original pics?

whitetop 02-07-2019 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HawkX66 (Post 1434183)
Do I see Z28 emblems in a few of the original pics?


Yes, Randy stalled them for the 2nd or third owner in 1979

muscle_collector 02-07-2019 10:50 PM

I love the huge meats on the back of it and the white big block beside it. that's the way I had my trans am setup back in the 70's. what I wouldn't give to go back and relive those days.

GMC_Typhoon 02-07-2019 11:20 PM

I don't see how fixing a mangled wreck is a rebody, unless they used a different body. Shit gets wrecked, it gets fixed.

Igosplut 02-07-2019 11:27 PM

Since the car was mostly destroyed, and the rebuild is common knowledge, I don't see the problem. It is what it is.

GMC_Typhoon 02-07-2019 11:35 PM

Did they fix the existing body? If so it's just a rebuilt wreck. Not a Vin swap.

1967 4K 02-07-2019 11:42 PM

It’s not a rebody, it’s just a repaired wreck vehicle.

Igosplut 02-07-2019 11:43 PM

It's a matter of opinion how much of a original body used makes it one or the other. The car was clearly mostly unusable, so do you try to make something out of it, or call it gone?

Igosplut 02-07-2019 11:48 PM

Swapping VIN/Trim tag, and firewall does not a car make. But in the case of wrecked body's, the fact it was public knowledge, I don't see the problem.

Crush 02-08-2019 12:43 AM

So how did car get so smashed? Was anyone killed?

whitetop 02-08-2019 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Crush (Post 1434278)
So how did car get so smashed? Was anyone killed?

Owner took it out and it got a little wild. No one killed but driver and passenger spent some time in a hospital-2 weeks..no serious injuries.

Vern B 02-08-2019 01:21 AM

Most cars that were raced have floors, inner and outer quarters, trunk, front fenders, door skins, possibly hood, trunk lid and tail panel replaced. That’s just a normal part of a full restoration.

If the firewall, trim and vin tags were moved it’s a rebody, if those things weren’t moved, I’d consider it a repair. Value is truly in the eyes of the beholder in this case.

Sounds like there’s no hiding anything with this car

Igosplut 02-08-2019 01:45 AM

Value or worth is another thing altogether.....

L72copocamaro 02-08-2019 02:58 AM

Not going to please everyone, but at least a piece of history is preserved.

Charley Lillard 02-08-2019 03:44 AM

Still optioned very nicely.

PeteLeathersac 02-08-2019 04:53 AM

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Seems unfair to say much without more facts/details as extra efforts may have been taken repairing the existing structure before new body panels added to specifically not rebody the car?
Are the tags undisturbed or ever removed/reattached?
:hmmm:
~ Pete

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HawkX66 02-08-2019 10:41 AM

I was basing my comments on this sentence from the first post. " The only piece of outside sheet metal saved was the drivers side door." I took that to mean that was the only piece of the original car saved which apparently was not the case.

whitetop 02-08-2019 02:35 PM

Randy said the firewall/cowl, door jambs, front floor pan etc was unhurt etc and new sheetmetal was added where necessary. Tags/ vin numbers were not removed or spliced in.

I said "OUTSIDE" sheetmetal drivers door was only piece saved/reused. Drivers side door is still bolted to original firewall/cowl door pillar

As other said an extensive repair.

Charley Lillard 02-08-2019 03:01 PM

Can I have it ?

Sean 02-08-2019 04:10 PM

I have seen some pretty bad carcasses resurrected compared to this one. What is really the difference is it was rusted out and several panels were replaced? NOTHING. What can you expect from a car that is 50 years old? Can I have it?

HawkX66 02-08-2019 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by whitetop (Post 1434331)
Randy said the firewall/cowl, door jambs, front floor pan etc was unhurt etc and new sheetmetal was added where necessary. Tags/ vin numbers were not removed or spliced in.

I said "OUTSIDE" sheetmetal drivers door was only piece saved/reused. Drivers side door is still bolted to original firewall/cowl door pillar

As other said an extensive repair.

Understood and agree...

PeteLeathersac 02-08-2019 05:48 PM

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Awesome info and great to hear much more than the cowl was retained also tags never removed an important detail too!
Reusing original complete cowl + rails and structure instead of clipping the car is certainly a more difficult repair w/ a rollover and kudos to those who took the time also not going the easier/quicker/cheaper way of slipping another body under the tags.
Personal opinion - untouched examples obviously have more value but if above details true & cowl + main structure saved w/ undisturbed tags/stampings, the identity seems intact & car not a rebody also unfair if lumped in w/ examples that are exactly that?
:beers:
~ Pete


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PeteLeathersac 02-17-2019 09:37 PM

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PeteLeathersac 02-18-2019 07:38 PM

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Subject w/ Z-stripes or another Huebner car?
:hmmm:
~ Pete

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Dave Rifkin 02-18-2019 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteLeathersac (Post 1435853)
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Subject w/ Z-stripes or another Huebner car?
:hmmm:
~ Pete

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My guess is that's a different car; notice the Z/28 emblems in the grille and on the fender.

olredalert 02-18-2019 11:12 PM

----As well as the hood!...….Bill S

69z2x4 02-19-2019 03:34 AM

69 Z28 with 302 motor was a nhra F/Stock..

PeteLeathersac 02-19-2019 03:47 AM

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Good info and expected it was another Huebner car but thought the pic may as well be here anyway.
:beers:
~ Pete

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camarojoe 10-28-2022 07:57 PM

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