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RS_COPO_Canuck 06-26-2015 01:01 PM

Copo Camaro Radiator
 
Hi All - I just received a "re-cored" radiator for my car. I was told it would be rebuilt....just not painted.

I have a few questions and comments. First - it looks like as*. The brackets are rusty as heck, one of the tanks looks rough near the filler - not sure if the curved neck is at the proper angle, not sure about the one mounting bracket - looks like it was cut....maybe that's how they area? The lower outlet is bent-up....no real attempt was made to work it. Looks like the petcock is crooked....in other words - I need to do the whole thing over. It does have the proper tanks OO and IO and a good date for my car - C (March). I paid a ton for this....3 times more than I have ever paid for a rare Mopar rad.....I just want it to be correct.

So - does the curve neck look properly lined up? How about the side bracket....is that cut factory? What is the proper gloss for paint? The rest - I will have properly fixed and restored. Thanks all.
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...212-bkt1_s.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...-bracket_s.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...e_neck_2_s.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...ill_cold_s.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...harrison_s.jpg

RS_COPO_Canuck 06-26-2015 01:03 PM

Re: Copo Camaro Radiator
 
A few more....

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...rve_neck_s.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...wer_hose_s.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...20-misc1_s.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...28221-oo_s.jpg

Charley Lillard 06-26-2015 01:17 PM

Re: Copo Camaro Radiator
 
Looks pretty good to me. You could use some safest rust remover to clean up the surface rust.

RS_COPO_Canuck 06-26-2015 01:44 PM

Re: Copo Camaro Radiator
 
Ok - Great - Thank you Charley

enio45 06-26-2015 02:22 PM

Re: Copo Camaro Radiator
 
i think it looks sloppy IMO - - for a high end car getting restored. Might be ok for a driver/survivor....

not sure about the curve neck, but when we do radiators - our guy takes them all apart - we pick them up and media clean all the metal
parts, tanks, top and side etc....then we take the dents out...when we are happy with the finish - we bring them back to the rad shop to install with the new core.....soldering is done nice and smooth.....we get them back, any final cleanup on the tanks,rails etc is done and prepped for final finish work - paint applied.....then come out very nice....they take work, again, depend on what your looking for.....

not criticizing here anyones work - - but if you want a show car finish - the rad needs some help

Stefano 06-26-2015 02:26 PM

Re: Copo Camaro Radiator
 
Agree with the Pope on comments above.

Curved Neck looks fine to me. Seal it up and let it soak in tub of "Evapo Rust".

camaromb 06-26-2015 03:07 PM

Re: Copo Camaro Radiator
 
It looks like the radiator was built from some of the reproduction components Heartbeat sells. The brackets are not like the originals I have, slight differences from original. Most originals are very crust/pitted so repro is probably the best option. Also, the filler neck overflow is angled about 90 degrees from what I have seen on original radiators. How does the I O tank look? Not hard to create a curve neck radiator from a standard 4 core by making the I O tank and adding the curve neck.

I have 3 originals radiators I am working on now, I can send you pictures if you need any. I have A B and C dated to compare to.

Mr70 06-26-2015 03:46 PM

Re: Copo Camaro Radiator
 
I agree w/Mark.
It looks a lil too modern to me.

camaromb 06-26-2015 04:01 PM

Re: Copo Camaro Radiator
 
So what is original on a $ 4,000 Copo radiator from Heartbeat, anything?

RS_COPO_Canuck 06-26-2015 04:10 PM

Re: Copo Camaro Radiator
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: enio45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i think it looks sloppy IMO - - for a high end car getting restored. Might be ok for a driver/survivor....

not sure about the curve neck, but when we do radiators - our guy takes them all apart - we pick them up and media clean all the metal
parts, tanks, top and side etc....then we take the dents out...when we are happy with the finish - we bring them back to the rad shop to install with the new core.....soldering is done nice and smooth.....we get them back, any final cleanup on the tanks,rails etc is done and prepped for final finish work - paint applied.....then come out very nice....they take work, again, depend on what your looking for.....

not criticizing here anyones work - - but if you want a show car finish - the rad needs some help

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I know - It is getting everything you mentioned above - it's the only way for any/all of my cars. I tried buying the untouched original core so I could do all of the above - but that wasn't an option. So mo-money, mo-money, mo-money.... lol

RS_COPO_Canuck 06-26-2015 04:11 PM

Re: Copo Camaro Radiator
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: camaromb</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It looks like the radiator was built from some of the reproduction components Heartbeat sells. The brackets are not like the originals I have, slight differences from original. Most originals are very crust/pitted so repro is probably the best option. Also, the filler neck overflow is angled about 90 degrees from what I have seen on original radiators. How does the I O tank look? Not hard to create a curve neck radiator from a standard 4 core by making the I O tank and adding the curve neck.

I have 3 originals radiators I am working on now, I can send you pictures if you need any. I have A B and C dated to compare to.

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Thanks - would love to see some pics.....especially the filler neck area - it's coming apart anyway - so it needs to be done correctly.

enio45 06-26-2015 04:15 PM

Re: Copo Camaro Radiator
 
i have had good luck with HBC radiators - they are very close and they are all have the new parts - which is key.

the only thing i do if we use a HBC rad is we make sure there is no paint on them or any other shop doing the work...we like to
do the finish work and apply our own paint process to it to give us the look we are trying achieve.

RS_COPO_Canuck 06-26-2015 04:17 PM

Re: Copo Camaro Radiator
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: camaromb</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So what is original on a $ 4,000 Copo radiator from Heartbeat, anything? </div></div>

At least it was free shipping....haha!

One of the tanks is not being re-popped - the IO - so that must be original.....

RS_COPO_Canuck 06-26-2015 04:18 PM

Re: Copo Camaro Radiator
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stefano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Agree with the Pope on comments above.

Curved Neck looks fine to me. Seal it up and let it soak in tub of &quot;Evapo Rust&quot;. </div></div>

Stefano - I'll spray bomb it as is and sell you the car? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

camaromb 06-26-2015 04:21 PM

Re: Copo Camaro Radiator
 
Who says they are not making repro I O tanks? Not hard to have a few I O s stamped along with the I L s when the tanks are made.

RS_COPO_Canuck 06-26-2015 04:31 PM

Re: Copo Camaro Radiator
 
Are they? I can only find OO and IL - among others....which doesn't mean they aren't....just that's all that I have found.

camaromb 06-26-2015 04:42 PM

Re: Copo Camaro Radiator
 
If you could get $ 4000 for a radiator than might sell for $ 1,000 by changing an L to an O in the one brass tank would you advertise the I O tanks for sale?

RS_COPO_Canuck 06-29-2015 03:44 PM

Re: Copo Camaro Radiator
 
Well yeah - but I would like to think there is some honor......as soon as I get the tank off I will do a CSI on it.

Stefano 06-29-2015 03:50 PM

Re: Copo Camaro Radiator
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RS_COPO_Canuck</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stefano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Agree with the Pope on comments above.

Curved Neck looks fine to me. Seal it up and let it soak in tub of &quot;Evapo Rust&quot;. </div></div>

Stefano - I'll spray bomb it as is and sell you the car? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] </div></div>

I'm a buyer even with that Rad [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img]


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