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Hotrodpaul 01-22-2015 12:27 PM

69 Z-28 Survivor
 
Just wanted to post some pics of my survivor 69 Z-28, original paint, 40K mile X77, 4:10 car. I will be disassembling and cleaning the car in the near future. I also have the original rebuilt master cylinder which I will install shortly. If anyone needs pics for restoration, let me know.

Paul
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...4-dscn0256.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...5-dscn0254.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...6-dscn0258.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...7-dscn0259.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...8-dscn0262.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9-dscn0253.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...0-dscn0263.jpg

SS427 01-22-2015 12:43 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
Let me be the first (of hundreds) to say, VERY nice!

novadude 01-22-2015 01:04 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
Man... I wouldn't disassemble or restore a single thing on that car. Looks great as-is.

m22mike 01-22-2015 01:14 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
Would be great to see any detailed pics you care to share along the way, we like pictures [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]. Sweet car, can I have that cowl induction seal... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

Mike

parkbrau 01-22-2015 01:19 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
beautiful car.

Dave Rifkin 01-22-2015 01:42 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
I wouldn't touch that car; beautiful!

RST 01-22-2015 02:00 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
I believe we used to own that car, it runs VERY strong!

1969l78 01-22-2015 02:07 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
Great car!!!! Only original once!!! I wouldn't touch a thing!

Hotrodpaul 01-22-2015 02:27 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
I was just planning on cleaning off the dirt, fixing any issues but maintain the original finish. I have already adjusted the valves, rebuilt the original carb, cleaned and lubricated the distributor, and installed a NOS Dist cap. The inside of the heads and valve covers were clean as a whistle. The original valve springs are weak after 46 years and will be replaced for insurance against valve float. Car has some neat options. Original owner was a woman in Ohio and I think she got tired of muscling the steering wheel without power steering. She may have also been going through a divorce from my records and sold it to a gentleman in 1970 who parked it in 1973 until found in 2009.

Paul

miket1 01-22-2015 02:43 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
Very nice car, I like it

m22mike 01-22-2015 05:58 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
Paul
Very good idea to replace the valve springs, especially if you chose to hammer it a bit.

Mike

Salvatore 01-22-2015 06:17 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hotrodpaul</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was just planning on cleaning off the dirt, fixing any issues but maintain the original finish. I have already adjusted the valves, rebuilt the original carb, cleaned and lubricated the distributor, and installed a NOS Dist cap. The inside of the heads and valve covers were clean as a whistle. The original valve springs are weak after 46 years and will be replaced for insurance against valve float. Car has some neat options. Original owner was a woman in Ohio and I think she got tired of muscling the steering wheel without power steering. She may have also been going through a divorce from my records and sold it to a gentleman in 1970 who parked it in 1973 until found in 2009.

Paul</div></div>

Best part of the paragraph..........&quot;valve float&quot;! Love hearing that. Pictures would be great.
Thanks in advance.

KenMaisano 01-22-2015 11:55 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
My Old Z. I told you guys that the car was Amazing and someone was going to get a great car! Well it couldn't have gone to a better guy, Paul is a great guy.

Ken Maisano

supercomp 8.90 01-23-2015 03:02 AM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
wow I would not touch anything to do with the patina on the car, the endura bumper looks awesome on a cortez silver car!

CamaroNOS 01-23-2015 04:04 AM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
It is perfect just the way it is, that being a survivor.

I guess the question is, what do you have to gain by &quot;taking it apart&quot; verses keeping it 100% intact as per the factory? Not to cast judgement, but you consciously bought a real true survivor.....correct?

Here is something to ponder, if you <span style="text-decoration: underline">take apart a true survivor</span> without making any alterations, other than cleaning everything, is it still a &quot;true survivor&quot;?

At the end of the day, like I always say, it is your name on the title and not mine. Who am I to cast judgement. But if you were to ask me, well then.....

Paul

Stefano 01-23-2015 12:50 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
Kool Z28, congrats.

MrMotion 01-23-2015 04:36 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
We also just received a 69 RSZ28 Survivor! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...ck_and_z28.jpg

Salvatore 01-23-2015 04:59 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
WOW, All original paint?
Nice car!

SS427 01-23-2015 05:01 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
Damn. I could use a couple of them for customers! Highly sought after color and RS option!

L78steve 01-23-2015 05:19 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
My 69Z is a 04C. I would be interested in some dates. Carb, Dist. and block.
Thanks, Steve.

tabooo 01-23-2015 06:03 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
Any more pic Tony?

427TJ 01-23-2015 06:09 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hotrodpaul</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...5-dscn0254.jpg </div></div>

Talk about a killer stance! Very nice.

Hotrodpaul 01-23-2015 06:27 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
I will post more pics with dates here shortly. This car is several hundred builds later than my 04C L-78 Camaro SS I sold back in 2006.


Paul

firstgenaddict 01-30-2015 06:37 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MrMotion</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We also just received a 69 RSZ28 Survivor! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...ck_and_z28.jpg
</div></div>

Tony's car is the one which Lloyd (Edgemont Village) owned and improved/completed the preservation I started in 2006. The car was vintage certified at the 2007 Camaro nationals. Here is a link to the web album 2006 start to when it left for Lloyd's in 2010-2011. FWIW Lloyd took the car to the NEXT LEVEL as far as obtaining detail items for which the previous owner had little concern, he really made the car a museum piece.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/1...83712724810161

Billohio 01-30-2015 09:02 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
My spare is or was in lloyds car. Guy before me took the never used spare out and 6 months after selling car sold the spare on eBay. I would have loved to had that for my trunk. What is the date on lloyds trim tag?

x77-69z28 01-30-2015 09:18 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
I didn't know Lloyd was selling!

Hotrodpaul 01-30-2015 09:50 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
The Tuxedo Black 04C car's engine build date V0409DZ is the same as mine.

Paul

Rick99 01-30-2015 10:14 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
Did Lloyds car have the original motor?

firstgenaddict 01-30-2015 10:58 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: x77-69z28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I didn't know Lloyd was selling! </div></div>

He wasn't, as a matter of fact I had recently spoke with Lloyd and given him some additional information/names/phone numbers regarding the car's past.

Less than a 2 months later I'm getting a call from the new owner, to whom I stated the same thing... &quot;I didn't know Lloyd had the car for sale.&quot; It was then he referred me to the long TC thread I started back in 2006 tracing the car until Lloyd saw her off for the next stage of her journey.

Kurt S 01-30-2015 11:07 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
I remember when I got the phone call from Ken when the black car was found, but before it was sold.
I was very skeptical. RS Z, in original black paint? I was wrong. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

300deluxeL79 01-30-2015 11:15 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MrMotion</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We also just received a 69 RSZ28 Survivor! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...ck_and_z28.jpg
</div></div>

eddie shack!

firstgenaddict 01-30-2015 11:20 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
<span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">and factory equipped with Cowl hood and endura? YEA, RIGHT</span></span> [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Kurt when I went to look at the car before purchase I figured it was going to be another one of those hundreds of other goose chases we have all been involved in... when I saw it I thought no one will believe it... weren't all of these pulled out in the 80's? What are the chances?

I can't think of an additional option other than Hounds Tooth I would have wanted... and it looks sinister.

Black car is 04C N633599 rear end is BV04/17 0r 18
Gauges, endura, RS, ZL2, 4.10. I think the NCRS date is 4/23 the TT is 305xxx or 308xxx

Steve Shauger 01-31-2015 03:04 AM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rick99</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Did Lloyds car have the original motor? </div></div>
No, the next best thing an original Z28 engine and correctly dated for the car.

Steve Shauger 01-31-2015 03:09 AM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: firstgenaddict</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MrMotion</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We also just received a 69 RSZ28 Survivor! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...ck_and_z28.jpg
</div></div>

Tony's car is the one which Lloyd (Edgemont Village) owned and improved/completed the preservation I started in 2006. The car was vintage certified at the 2007 Camaro nationals. Here is a link to the web album 2006 start to when it left for Lloyd's in 2010-2011. FWIW Lloyd took the car to the NEXT LEVEL as far as obtaining detail items for which the previous owner had little concern, he really made the car a museum piece.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/1...83712724810161 </div></div>

I remember meeting you and William in 2007 and Vintage Certifying the car. That car seems to get better and better and black RS/Z's are sinister looking. Great car and congrats to the new owner.

Hotrodpaul 01-31-2015 10:42 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
Looks like the high rpm misfire was weak factory valvesprings. Bought some new Comp stock replacement 981-16 springs and just replaced the #1 cylinder. Seat load on the old springs was less than 50Lb and open load less than 200Lb! Even had the old brittle stem seals in place. New springs measure about 110 Lb at a height of 1.710&quot; and 280 Lb open, I guess it pays to check spring pressures. Could have resulted in a damaged engine. See the pics below:

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...6-dscn0277.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...7-dscn0275.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...8-dscn0276.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9-dscn0278.jpg

Now, I need to do the other seven.

Paul

firstgenaddict 01-31-2015 11:34 PM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
That may lead to a little float... just a lil bit.

MrMotion 02-01-2015 02:33 AM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
There are many pictures available as the previous owners posted from cleanup to ownership transfer. Lloyd the last owner, a true preservationist not commonly found within the Musclecar crowd. A true professional who had the determination, the heart and frankly the balls to understand that this vehicle even compared to six figure restortations cannot be duplicated, hence its rarity. I would personally like to thank James Groome for also understanding the significance of this remarkable find. A few of this sites members' rides have also passed through the new owners' or my hands. I will post those pictures. Lloyd called me a curator. Yes a curator for the new owner who also has the vision, heart and belief that it was an exciting time to drive these cars in the day, and to preserve rare vehicles.
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...icture_055.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...8-img_3467.jpg

earntaz 02-01-2015 02:40 AM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: firstgenaddict</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That may lead to a little float... just a lil bit. </div></div>

Good thing it didn't suck a valve ... that gets real expensive.

Steve Shauger 02-01-2015 03:13 AM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MrMotion</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> There are many pictures available as the previous owners posted from cleanup to ownership transfer. Lloyd the last owner, a true preservationist not commonly found within the Musclecar crowd. A true professional who had the determination, the heart and frankly the balls to understand that this vehicle even compared to six figure restortations cannot be duplicated, hence its rarity. I would personally like to thank James Groome for also understanding the significance of this remarkable find. A few of this sites members' rides have also passed through the new owners' or my hands. I will post those pictures. Lloyd called me a curator. Yes a curator for the new owner who also has the vision, heart and belief that it was an exciting time to drive these cars in the day, and to preserve rare vehicles.
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...icture_055.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...8-img_3467.jpg
</div></div>
Just an FYI, but there are a host of collectors who are preservationist and have significant collections. Many more would like to find and collect unrestored cars, unfortunately it uncommon and difficult to find them. When they become available there is a large market. Just look at the unrestored cars that sold in the Wellborne collection; just about every car set a record. Whether its a painting, pottery, coins, guns, the best preserved originals are the most valuable and sought after...no different in the collector car market. No new ground here.....

XXXGoldL34M20 02-01-2015 03:25 AM

Re: 69 Z-28 Survivor
 
Tony that is a neat picture I have never seen before of my former Triple Black LS6 70 Chevelle.
Thank You for posting that surprise.
Danny


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