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Holiday L78 Nova Sale...Back Again!
How about starting off the New Year with an L78 Nova in your garage or workshop [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img] You folks have seen these cars before...all are the real deal...no drama. The prices listed below <span style="font-weight: bold">are only good for a short time...</span>so, if you are serious give me a call or send a message. I have tons of photos, info, details and so forth...much of it you have seen before. Happy to provide additional info as needed. Here are a couple of links to prior ads for reference plus a link to our site for the Marine Corps Nova.
Happy New Year...wilma [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img] 518-821-6406 [email protected] https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...ova#Post483729 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...400#Post478698 http://chevynova.org/Nova-Photo/gallery3...970-Fathom-Blue ***the Marine Corps Nova now has dog dish caps and steel wheels https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...7_dscn9977.jpg 70 Cranberry Red...$64,999 70 Autumn Gold...$30,999 70 Fathom Blue...$62,999 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics..._sale_2013.jpg |
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Best of Luck Tom....Happy New Year [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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Wow....
That Autumn Gold L78 is really priced right..... Rich |
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They are all great cars!
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I thought it would be good to add some of the history and stories behind these cars...let's start with the Marine Corps Nova.
My story with this car began in January of 2003 when I responded to ad on the Collector Car Trader website. After a number of conversations with the "then current owner"...I decided to buy the car subject to a personal inspection. Wayne Bushey from NNN went with me on the trip to Indiana to look the car over. What we found was a very solid "survivor type car", that was a perfect candidate for a restoration. We spent the better part of the day going over the car in detail and left without making the deal...after some discussion I pulled the trigger and bought the car the next day. During the process of researching the history of the car the original owner was finally located. This high horse Nova was ordered new in the winter of 1969/70 by a fellow named John "Jack" Kanter, a Brooklyn native who was serving in the USMC in Vietnam. Since Jack was overseas, his father handled all the arrangements and the car was sold and delivered by Dial Chevrolet in Westbury, Long Island in the spring of 1970. The original selling price of the car was approx. $3650. Here are some pictures Jack sent me when he was "in country" back in the day...in the first photo he is the guy with the shirt...then in his fatigues and finally that is Jack with a wounded buddy. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img] https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9-img_0002.jpg Jack drove the car back and forth to school and work for several years...he also made the usual Day 2 mods like adding Cragar Wheels. Jack enjoyed the car a little too much one day inn 1973 and the engine was history. Hustedt Chevrolet in Centereach, Long Island installed a warranty CE block and got the L78 car on the road once more. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img] https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...0-img_0001.jpg Jack eventually moved away and the car was sold to a relative and then to the guy we bought it from. The restoration process was a great education for me and one that I truly enjoyed. I got to learn a lot about the little details concerning the car...this lead to more discussions with the original owner along the way. In fact, I called Jack today to say hello...we hadn't spoke for a few years, but he knew who it was right away [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] As you all know, we named this car the Marine Corps Nova in recognition of its first owner who served his country so long ago in Vietnam. There are probably a lot of men and women like Jack who now serve that also share a love for muscle cars and our great hobby. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...1-dscn9976.jpg This beautifully restored car represents a unique link to our "muscle car past" and to the special people who are part of it. Many thanks to Wayne for all his efforts in preserving this piece of American automotive history and to my buddy "Tony the Greek" for helping to keep it looking good! Semper Fi....wilma |
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Super stories Tom!
The way the Marine Nova sits is exactly the "attitude" I want my project to have ... looks pretty level ... Thanks for sharing -- The TAZ |
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Taz...if you want it to be technically correct..the front end should be a little higher than the rear...perhaps 3/4" to 1". The factory stance had a slightly "nose up" look.
Glad you liked the story...I have some more stuff to add on this car and the others...enjoy! wilma |
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good story Tom.
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Nose up a skoshi is OK with Me ... Thanks
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Cool history. Love to hear these stories on the cars.
Rich |
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Great story, Tom [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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A little more history and info on this car...here is how it looked when we purchased it.
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...7-img_0019.jpg Some pics of the "techy" stuff...original underhood shot. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...8-img_0015.jpg cowl tag... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9-img_0016.jpg engine bay as found... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...0-img_0015.jpg 291 heads... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...1-img_0017.jpg photos from the 2004 Nova Nationals... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...2-img_0011.jpg a few more from the 2004 Nats.. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...3-img_0012.jpg Gold Class Certification... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...4-img_0013.jpg Front cover of Nova Times.. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...5-img_0014.jpg The boring numbers stuff... Nova Info…The Marine Corps Nova 1970 SS 396 L78 Fathom Blue....402/375hp M-21 close ratio Muncie trans P0B13 w/vin 3.55 12 bolt posi rear CBT 0223G 2 E Black vinyl top...correct Levant material used Deluxe interior...new carpet, seat belts, etc Bucket seats....completely restored...inside/out Console with gauges…6,000 rpm tach AM push button radio...originally had a rear speaker ( I currently have one/not installed) 14 x 7 steel wheels...pained body color E 70 x 14 white line wide ovals...repro Firestones w/matching spare CE warranty replacement block...#3999290 dated E2572 4 bolt main hi-perf 291 heads dated early Feb/70...both dated the same 2/8/70 569 intake manifold Correct TCS system Correct Gardner exhaust system....deep tone system Correct smog system from Bill Hodel....correct dated pump, check valves, new hoses/tubes, etc. All under hood dated components are correct including: 837 alternator....9F17 811 water pump 2000 distributor....restored by Jerry McNeish dated jan. 8/70 4557 carburetor....show quality resto...dated Dec/69 660 t/stat housing 5 blade fan Correct 3 core radiator w/ZD tag 293 coil Original deep groove pulleys...no repros I think the starter has the wrong date, but I have a correct dated 418 for the car Brake booster was replaced w/reproduction...I have a dated original Paint marks, spring tags, shock labels, etc…all done to original specs. Almost all trim on the car is restored original or NOS replacement T-3 headlites Spiral shocks All original body panels All new dated glass All new correct springs Best In Show Nova Nationals 2004 in Atlanta….appeared at GM Carlisle Original Big Block display 2006, York US 30 Muscle car madness 2005, 2006….Cover feature car in Nova Times…work done by Wayne Bushey at NNN. That's enough...wilma [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img] |
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Tom,
Awesome story! Thanks for sharing. Any history on the gold and red cars? I would love to hear if you have a chance. Happy new year, Jason |
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Looks exactley like my old Nova. I too bought it from a guy in Brooklyn around 1973
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Found a few more tidbits for the Marine Corps car....working on some stuff for the other two.
Here is a pic of ZD radiator tag, original clip for hose and HH spring tag https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...3-img_4536.jpg Some photos from the restoration... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...4-mvc_034f.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...5-mvc_035f.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...7-mvc_875f.jpg Wayne Bushey delivered the car to our home in New York...Karen showing off [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img] https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9-dscn0411.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...0-dscn0410.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...1-dscn0409.jpg |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SuperNovaSS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tom,
Awesome story! Thanks for sharing. Any history on the gold and red cars? I would love to hear if you have a chance. Happy new year, Jason </div></div> Jason...here is some more history...let's start with the Autumn Gold TH400 car. I bought this car back in April of 2004 (almost 10 years ago) from another SYC member. The driveline was out of the car at the time...lots of parts in boxes and in the trunk. Very solid original car with great documentation...the car had an interesting history. If I remember the story correctly...the first owner ordered this car sometime in the early summer of 1970 from Reedman Chevrolet in Langhorne, PA and it was delivered August 5th, 1970. That is pretty late for a 1970 model year car...and while I'm not positive, it was probably one of the last L78 cars ever produced. All of the dated parts and cowl tag point to a first week of July assembly date. Here is how the car looked when I bought it...note the vintage McCreary tires...G60's on the front..and J60's on the rear. ***by the way...those 454 emblems on the fenders were installed by the original owner...seems he wanted a little more under the hood, so he installed an LS6 and gave the L78 a breather...that must have been some combo on street back then...all that power in a Nova [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif[/img] https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics..._on_fender.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...6-dscn0857.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...7-dscn0859.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...8-dscn0861.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9-dscn0858.jpg The original core support and front end were vey solid...49k on the odometer...undercarriage had some surface rust...original F41 sway bar was intact...car had a Day-2 cover on the rear, air shocks and a trailer hitch!! I was told the guy towed a snowmobile trailer with this car...don't see that everyday.. an L78 and a sled [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img] The trunk was solid and the interior had a huge 8 track player w/FM convertor insert...the inside was a little funky, but overall in pretty good shape. I have since recovered seats, added a repro rug, removed the 8 track and cleaned things up. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...8971-00051.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...-8972-0007.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...8973-00101.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...8974-00091.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...8975-00061.jpg Next post I'll get into some of the documentation and engine work I performed....wilma |
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Here is a little more info on the Gold car....documentation is extensive, POP, Bill of Sale, window sticker, PDI sheet, owners manual, copy of original title and registration and lots more.
http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...0/IMG_3066.jpg The engine had been gone thru at some point, but I decided to have my shop check it out and take care of any issues. The motor turned out great... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...7-dscn0793.jpg Here is the dyno sheet...pretty impressive figures...434/torque...431/horsepower https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...1-8978-img.jpg This car was a highly optioned vehicle...19 factory options! Including the one year only Aux. lighting pkg that had the "wiper fluid monitor" http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...0/IMG_2959.jpg http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...0/IMG_2966.jpg Cowl tag... http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...0/IMG_2958.jpg CTY code w/vin on the engine pad... http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_13522.jpg The motor looks right at home considering it's coming up on it's 44th Birthday [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...0/IMG_0163.jpg There are lots more photos and details available if you are interested...just ask. wilma |
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Awesome! Thanks for sharing.
Jason |
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Well, I'm finally getting around to the Canadian delivered red L78...this car has a real interesting story. The car is truly the essence of a pure muscle car...no fancy options, bench seat, rubber floor mats, 4 speed, steel wheels with dog dish caps and a solid lifter big block under the hood.
http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...r/IMG_3254.jpg I actually followed this car for several years before I was able to purchase it in 2004...but, before we talk about all that, lets travel back in time about 44 years to Dick Irwin Chevrolet-Oldsmobile in North Vancouver, BC. From what I have been able to learn the car was probably ordered as a stock unit by the dealership. The Fisher Body Build Sheet shows an assembly date of Dec. 23rd, 1969..with car being shipped on January 2nd, 1970. This info came from some of the extensive documentation we have for this rare car. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9-img_0002.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...0-img_0001.jpg The car was prepped by the shop at Dick Irwin on January 9th, 1970..note the CKO code on the PDI sheet http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...adian_0008.jpg The dealership applied a stock number to every vehicle they had...it was written with some kind of indelible ink on the firewall...C2353 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...1-img_0006.jpg The car was purchased by John Walker Beggs on January 10th, 1970...he traded a 64 Acadian convertible for the $4300 Nova...they gave him $606 for his old car...he put down a $10 deposit and financed the rest..try that today [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img] **these figures are in Canadian dollars http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...anCar_0007.jpg Here is a photo of Beggs when the car was new... note the antenna on the fender...not sure how that came about [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img] he also appears to have added some hood latches... http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...car/Car-15.jpg Now we move onto Mrs. Beggs...from what I have been told she was not a fan of the 4 speed and clutch and lack of power steering...and since we all like to keep our ladies happy..Mr. Beggs did some modifications. I am told he added power steering and replaced the factory 4 speed with a TH400 tranny to keep the lady of the house happy [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] you can see the power steering pump in the earlier pictures. **the vacuum fitting on the intake manifold still has the outlet for connecting a line for the automatic..it is obviously blocked off now. there is something interesting in this photo..the steel wheels almost appear to be black..not sure if they came that way or the original owner painted them....I've had discussions with other Nova folks about cars that came with black wheels..maybe the red doesn't show up in the photo??...hard to know for sure after 44 years. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...2-img_0007.jpg For some reason in 1971 Beggs decided to get documentation from GM of Canada on his car...the info included the microfiche shown earlier along with a letter and hand written list of options. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...3-img_0003.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...4-img_0004.jpg So, now we move forward about 20 years to the time when the car finally changes hands...for the first time! It seems that a fellow named Frank Vanveen had know of this car since 1976 after responding to an local ad for some parts for sale. He tried to buy the car, but Beggs was going to "keep it forever".. Mr. Beggs finally gave in and Frank bought the car in April of 1990. Talk about persistence!! I believe that Mr. Vanveen's father may have worked at the dealership when the car was sold new...here is a photo of the car when Frank brought it home on April 14th, 1990. **note the silver painted wheels, blacked out rockers and hood latches. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...5-img_0008.jpg The restoration process started shortly after arrival...here are some of the parts being worked on and Frank posing with his prized red L78 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...6-img_0005.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...8-img_0009.jpg Frank also sent in for the GM of Canada paperwork.. http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...anCar_0004.jpg The restoration was completed in 1993 and Frank made his debut at Super Chevy Sunday show https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...1-9139-img.jpg Frank owned the car until the early 90's and it was featured in an issue of Canadian Classics and Performance in June 2003...shortly after he sold it. http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...dL-78_0001.jpg Well..the car ended up going to someone in Washington State for a short time and then to a fellow in California...and finally to Joe Grom at Chevy 2 Only. I bought the car from Joe in early 2004... it is a really neat muscle car and turns heads with that red paint. We took it to the Rhinebeck Car Show a few years back and won Best in Class...here is the car on display in the winner's area. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...0-img_0010.jpg As you know from reading the earlier threads we recently installed the correct 731 plain jane black vinyl seats...these were missing from the original restoration. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...1-img_3457.jpg So...there you have the story of the Red Nova...maybe you have room in your garage to carry on the story [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] ...wilma http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...n_DSCN0763.jpg |
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Thanks for posting the history of these great cars!
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That is my favorite Nova in your collection!
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Here are a few more tidbits on the Red Car...
As I mentioned in the story, the original owner's wife couldn't deal with the 4 speed so he installed an automatic for her. Unfortunately he sold the Muncie that came with the car long before Frank bought it. However, Mr. Vanveen was able to locate a 1970 M20 out of a Nova..so, while it does not have the VIN it is as close as you can get. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...7-img_3231.jpg **I have made some contacts in Canada...maybe that tranny is still out there hmmm For you numbers guys... 12C build date on cowl tag 75/75 Cranberry Red 731 Black Vinyl Bench A-2 black trim interior...two exterior moldings Engine and rear match the POP Engine...correct $854 block cast K 11 9 T1125CKO pad stamp w/VIN Tranny...M20 Muncie P0E15A Tag #3952659 WB Rear... #3969341NF date L-11-9 axle tube CBT1219 1 E Bell Housing...#3899621 Cyl. heads...#3964291 both dated J31 9 Distributor...#1112000 9H20 Intake..#3963569 Alternator...#837 Carb..#4557 Nov/69 date Smog and TCS are all complete and correct including exhaust manifolds 5 blade fan https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...8-img_3234.jpg |
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With regards to the original transmission long gone, how much does this affect the value in your opinion?
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Jeff...I really don't know...certainly a lot less than if it was the motor. With the ownership history, originality, paperwork and quality this car has...it probably doesn't matter that much at all.
Maybe a better way to answer is this...I've bought a lot of L78 cars over the years...when I looked at this car it didn't make one bit of difference to me. The 'story' of the car includes the tranny swap...back then, they were just cars...people did what they wanted to do. Hope that helps...wilma |
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Pretty awesome ...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WILMASBOYL78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jeff...I really don't know...certainly a lot less than if it was the motor. With the ownership history, originality, paperwork and quality this car has...it probably doesn't matter that much at all.
Maybe a better way to answer is this...I've bought a lot of L78 cars over the years...when I looked at this car it didn't make one bit of difference to me. The 'story' of the car includes the tranny swap...back then, they were just cars...people did what they wanted to do. Hope that helps...wilma </div></div> <span style="font-weight: bold"> I believe Tom hit the nail on the head.</span> |
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Yep, the red one is my favorite too! Tom, does it still have power steering or was it removed for the resto?
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The power steering was removed during the restoration...as was the automatic tranny. The motor runs very strong...and the car has a great low end with the M20. Our black 70 L78 has an M21..big difference out of the gate.
I'll post a few more photos later... wilma |
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Thanks Tom, I agree with your answer also, when I bought my Z/28, the 2nd owner traded the original M-20 for an M-22 and it did not matter to me.
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Great shot of Frank in his one car restoration garage. The last time I was in the garage the outline of the subframe was still on the wall where he leaned it up to paint it.
Tom, lots of luck in the New Year.....John. |
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Tom.....I can't believe the Autumn Gold Nova hasn't sold. I think that's a great deal for a numbers matching L78 Nova. GLWS
Kurt [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] |
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I would agree...this car is the real deal...paperwork and originality are all there.
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Scrappy's in Pendell! - [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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Marine Corps Nova has found a new home...<span style="font-weight: bold">and the new owner is a Marine [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img]
</span> Semper Fi....wilma |
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Congrats Tom!!
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Great news Tom and the new owner!
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Ew rah!!!!!!! Congrats to the both of you,
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Congrats to both!
Rich |
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Well the weather is finally in my favor..so the Marine Corps Nova came out of its foxhole today! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img]
This weekend the car will get a detailing and checkup so it's ready to go to a new home. Took some photos to mark the occasion [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] I have some video....how do I "condense" the file size?? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9-img_4695.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...0-img_4696.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...1-img_4698.jpg last one is for Sammy...car all covered and asleep [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...2-img_4702.jpg |
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Heck Tom, I thought that was sold. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]
DH [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img] |
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