Does Original Paint add to the value of a car
 

I know this is subjective as heck, but I thought I would throw it out there for opinions.

Provided a car has fewer than five nicks in the paint, the paint is faded but still shines, no dents dings, no rust, the chrome is is ok, no rust in the chrome just a few scratches is the car worth a certain percentage more than say a number 3 car? Or is it worth a certain percentage less than a restored car? I believe that a lot of us on this site preferred original unrestored cars but what is this worth? I see a few around with big numbers attached to them but they don't seem to sell as quick as I would had expected.

What do you guys think?

Thanks,

Lawrence

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Your question seems based on value. If that is the case, I assume you're looking to sell the car soon?

If you sell the car as is, you probably attract more buyers - both the ones that value the original paint, and those looking for a good car to repaint.

If you're going to paint the car and sell it, I can't see how you can spend the money to repaint the car and get more for it after doing so... unless you do it yourself or have someone else do a cheap paint job?

I'm curious as to what the car is... any pics or details?

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Nope not selling a car just have been looking at original paint cars and really like them. Just trying to get opinions on what one is worth as compared to restored cars. I may buy one but again just looking for direction on value. My Gold 69 Z28 RS car had mostly original paint but that was 2005 when I bought it so curious to what values have done....maybe flat from that time frame.

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yes it would my 2 cents 5-10 grand

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There's a few of us out there, that only buy original paint cars. For me, body and original interior condition mean everything, and non-matching eng. trans. means little...talking high horse 4 speed cars. I've never changed my way of thinking in 35 years.

Some people preserve cars, and I've seen my fair share of survivors go under the knife, because the current owner is chasing a $20 trophy.

Original paint cars are finally gaining momentum, and much easier to sell.

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Yes

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I can tell you that I just paid about 25% more for my 73 SD455 because it has its original paint, fully intact and is completely unrestored. I was the first guy on the seller's doorstep with cash in hand, and there was a line of guys after me trying to get that same car. So yes, a car is worth a whole lot more in its original finish, to a whole lot of people out there.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can tell you that I just paid about 25% more for my 73 SD455 because it has its original paint, fully intact and is completely unrestored. I was the first guy on the seller's doorstep with cash in hand, and there was a line of guys after me trying to get that same car. So yes, a car is worth a whole lot more in its original finish, to a whole lot of people out there. </div></div>

Great example Steve! Like my cousin said...&quot;They're only original once!&quot; [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif[/img]

Kurt

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Thanks guys I appreciate the feedback. That is what I was thinking too. I just love original interior body and paint.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Astock</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There's a few of us out there, that only buy original paint cars. For me, body and original interior condition mean everything, and non-matching eng. trans. means little...talking high horse 4 speed cars. I've never changed my way of thinking in 35 years.


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Agree with this 100%. My biggest issue with &quot;restored&quot; cars is that different people have different opinions on the &quot;right&quot; way to do things. Paint can cover up all kinds of shoddy patch work that can come back to haunt you later. Engines, Transmissions, etc... that stuff is fun and easy. That is another reason that I like clones (as long as they are not misrepresented), and resto-mods. Give me an affordable, 307 Chevelle with an all original, rock solid body and I can add the &quot;muscle car&quot; part. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img]

Unfortunatly, I've only been able to afford cars that have needed body amd paint work, as well as drivetrain / suspension work.

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Just to add to the discussion. Original cars are very scarce and provide the hobby with actual information (not speculation or someones interpretation of how things were done). There are many sellers who claim their car is unrestored, but I caution buyers to have it verified and certified prior or purchase one with a certification. In my opinion there is a significant premium on unrestored benchmark cars (especially performance models). Just because a car is advertised as such is not proof. These cars are over forty years old and many were restored in the 70's &amp; 80's and have the look and patina of an unrestored car. The Vintage Certification Group has been certifying cars for for 15 years and have cerified many excellent examples, but also uncovered some cars that were represented as unrestored by previous seller/expert only to inform new owner that they were not.

There is something special about driving an unrestored time capsule. Everytime I get in one of my cars it brings me back in time and puts a big smile on my face. Its still a thrill for me to drive a car as it rolled off the production line. To me that is priceless!

Remember a car that survived, isn't necessarily a survivor and in many instances it may need to be restored.

The Vintage Certification Group has been certifying cars for 15 years. We have 11 cars going through our certifications at the MCACN, so if you plan on attending stop by and see first hand some beautiful example and learn more about these cars and our program. http://www.mcacn.com/vintagecert.htm

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paceme</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just to add to the discussion. Original cars are very scarce and provide the hobby with actual information (not speculation or someones interpretation of how things were done). There are many sellers who claim their car is unrestored, but I caution buyers to have it verified and certified prior or purchase one with a certification. In my opinion there is a significant premium on on unrestored benchmark cars (especially performance models). Just because a car is advertised as such is not proof. These cars are over forty years old and many were restored in the 70's &amp; 80's and have the look and patina of an unrestored car. The Vintage Certification Group has been certifying cars for for 15 years and have cerified many excellent examples, but also uncovered some cars that were represented as unrestored by previous seller/expert only to inform new owner that they were not.

There is something special about driving an unrestored time capsule. Everytime I get in one of my cars it brings me back in time and puts a big smile on my face. Its still a thrill for me to drive a car as it rolled off the production line. To me that is priceless!

Remember a car that survived, isn't necessarily a survivor and in many instances it may need to be restored.

The Vintage Certification Group has been certifying cars for 15 years. We have 11 cars going through our certifications at the MCACN, so if you plan on attending stop by and see first hand some beautiful example and learn more about these cars and our program. http://www.mcacn.com/vintagecert.htm
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I'll find you at MCACN, and hope to find out what time the Dusk Blue L78 69 Chevelle is being certified or not certified as the case may be. I would love to learn as much as possible during the investigation without holding up the process of course. How involved can a spectator get during judging? (Watch over the velvet ropes?)

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We're going to be pretty busy, especially when we have the cars on the lift which is the real constraint time wise. Once the cars underbody are complete we will have plenty of time to talk and discuss this car or whatever. I'll be there on Thursday for setup and we will start certifications first thing on Friday, however the show starts on Saturday. I haven't set the schedule of certifications at this time because I don't have all the arrival dates of the cars. PM me if you need specific information.

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Original paint is great! original Patina is greater! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]


Tommy [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img]

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5 of the ten cars I own are mostly original paint cars. Speaking for myself, I've become so jaded over the years that when I see a #1 car i walk right past it, I feel like what I'm really looking at is the owners bank account. An original car shows history...And history is what it is all about.

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Steve S. and Jim F. Very well put!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paceme</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We're going to be pretty busy, especially when we have the cars on the lift which is the real constraint time wise. Once the cars underbody are complete we will have plenty of time to talk and discuss this car or whatever. I'll be there on Thursday for setup and we will start certifications first thing on Friday, however the show starts on Saturday. I haven't set the schedule of certifications at this time because I don't have all the arrival dates of the cars. PM me if you need specific information. </div></div>

All good, PM sent.

Not a pressing matter, just want to gleen whatever I can about 69 Chevelles as this one goes under the microscope.

Ryan

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paceme</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We're going to be pretty busy, especially when we have the cars on the lift which is the real constraint time wise. Once the cars underbody are complete we will have plenty of time to talk and discuss this car or whatever. I'll be there on Thursday for setup and we will start certifications first thing on Friday, however the show starts on Saturday. I haven't set the schedule of certifications at this time because I don't have all the arrival dates of the cars. PM me if you need specific information. </div></div>

Look forward to checking out the cars that are being certified and discussing them as well.