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DarrenX33 02-12-2012 04:50 PM

File an eBay case?
 
Bought a set of Rockets off eBay. They were described as:

"THESE ARE RARE AND IN GREAT CONDITION, NO CURB RASH, DENTS, OR GOUGES. THEY ARE REALLY NICE CONDITION FOR THE ERA. CAPS INCLUDED.
LOOK AT THE PICTURES, YOU BE THE JUDGE OF HOW NICE THEY ARE."

I get them and one wheel has a sizable piece of chrome/coating that has peeled off.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...o/1915ea34.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...o/15d0e055.jpg

When I as seller about it he says:

"To answer your question is, the wheels as stated were used in nice condition for the
era with pictures. Chrome on or off never paid attention to that!"

I then tried to negotiate a refund or reimbursement and have heard nothing again since Wednesday.

92646 02-12-2012 05:14 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
The only thing that will work against you is time. I would file a case now. If you paid by pay-pal that much better.

DarrenX33 02-12-2012 05:20 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
I did pay with PayPal. Are you saying file with Them rather that eBay?

Fast67VelleN2O 02-12-2012 05:32 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
File the claim with PAYPAL not ebay. Ebay claim is a joke. PayPal will get your money back. File it with a "not as described" case.

-Matt

Hemicolt 02-12-2012 05:41 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
X2. Ebay claims system is a joke. If you file a Paypal claim, they will freeze his account and he will not be able to withdraw the money.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">File the claim with PAYPAL not ebay. Ebay claim is a joke. PayPal will get your money back. File it with a &quot;not as described&quot; case.

-Matt </div></div>

RPOLS3 02-12-2012 05:45 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DarrenX33</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I did pay with PayPal. Are you saying file with Them rather that eBay? </div></div>

Yes - definitely file with paypal - it works.

Jake

hep1966 02-12-2012 05:50 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
I think that the way the description reads, you're out of luck. Chrome was never described.

&quot;YOU BE THE JUDGE OF HOW NICE THEY ARE&quot;

I'm not saying it's right, but don't see that you have any way out of the purchase.

camaromb 02-12-2012 05:53 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
If you feel the item was misrepresented and you paid with a credit card through Paypal, return the item with delivery confirmation. Work with your credit card company to reverse the charges. That is the easiest way to go.

DarrenX33 02-12-2012 06:23 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hep1966</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think that the way the description reads, you're out of luck. Chrome was never described.

&quot;YOU BE THE JUDGE OF HOW NICE THEY ARE&quot;

I'm not saying it's right, but don't see that you have any way out of the purchase.</div></div>

I get that but I really feel the ad was misleading. Of course I may be way off so any feedback I get here would be helpful. I also don't appreciate that I'm being ignored. I tried talking it out privately but no responses.

MosportGreen66 02-12-2012 06:26 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
Darren, thats a real shame. Listen to Matt - he's an ebay hawk with great experience. If that fails you, I'd file a claim through your CC company.

Fast67VelleN2O 02-12-2012 06:41 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
The seller had no close up pictures of the chrome. From a distance, they look great and he states that the wheels look great in the description. He specifically does not mention the chrome condition because he knows there is something wrong with it.

There are two concerns here.... one, the &quot;ask a question&quot; feature would have beeen a great tool to use and ask the seller what the chrome condition was since it was not mentioned in the ad before purchasing.

Two, you bid without asking any questions and just went off the 2 sentences and 4 pictures the seller had listed. I would haver a hard time purchasing anything with just a minimal description and 4 pictures but thats just me.

In my opinion since the guy won't respond, I would just file the paypal claim and consider it a lesson learned.

-Matt

The fact that he completely ignored chrome condition

Plowman 02-12-2012 06:45 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
Darren try something,listen to Mat or some one. Good luck.

DarrenX33 02-12-2012 06:50 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
I'd did ask a question about the lug pattern and with his response he again reinterated how nice they were. I guess that boosted my confidence in them. But yes I should have asked specifically about the chrome. It was foolish of me to think that the chrome condition was a no brainer based on the ad description. Indeed lesson learned and I tend to trust people more that I should. Thanks guys. I'll file the PP claim and see what happens. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Xplantdad 02-12-2012 06:51 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
Good luck D....

I hate shady people....How is the guy NOT misleading people...if he doesn't state the chrome condition! People's morals suck these days....

mockingbird812 02-12-2012 07:55 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
<span style="font-size: 14pt"> You did your due diligence and the scum-sucker mislead you with carefully chosen words and carefully selected photos. Go get him, Darren! Be ruthless!!!!!!! We want the juicy details when you get your way with this POS!</span>

napa68 02-12-2012 08:36 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
Darrin,

Recently, I had a problem with a seller over a NOS oil pressure gauge. After confering with the seller and no reasonable results, I filed a claim with eBay. It took 2 weeks to process and I provided information and photos to support my point. I was successful in getting my money back. They do seem to have a level of accountability they hold the seller to.

An opposing comment, I did buy a car that was terribly misrepresented. After trying to persue that one, I just had to put some salt on and eat it.

My point................it's a crap shoot. But, certainly worth the effort.

Tim

daverd 02-13-2012 03:18 AM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
FILE CLAIM WITH PAY PAL RIGHY AWAY
I got a flywheel that was discribed dishonestly
(damaged missing teeth)
I was refunded VERY QUICKLY!

DarrenX33 02-13-2012 04:43 AM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
Started the claim with paypal and it brought me to eBay. ?? So I filed with eBay.

Fast67VelleN2O 02-13-2012 04:51 AM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
You have the option to upgrade it to a PayPal case.

Rixls6 02-13-2012 03:09 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
I had a case filed with Ebay for an improperly described aluminum intake. I took pictures and sent them in with my complaint.
Ebay agreed with me and refunded all my money, including shipping charges, and let me keep the intake. I think the seller may have learned a lesson about trying to pull a fast one.

Fast67VelleN2O 02-13-2012 03:13 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
Rick,
Did that guy ever respond to his own thread over on Team Chevelle after you posted in it?

-Matt

Rixls6 02-13-2012 03:19 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
You saw that?
No, the guy fell off the face of the earth.
I couldn't believe he started a thread bashing me for complaining about his severely cracked intake, that he described as completely without cracks.
Here's a link to that thread.
http://www.chevelles.com/forums/show...ghlight=intake

My response to this guys bashing is on the 3rd page of that thread.

Postsedan 02-13-2012 03:27 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
Best of Luck, Darren. Shady people SUCK!

Dan

Fast67VelleN2O 02-13-2012 03:36 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
I got a good chuckle out of that thread.

SS427 02-13-2012 05:34 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
I would find out his name and post it here. I have found that people are really tough until you threaten to mention their name and tarnish their reputation. That will normally get you some action.

agtw31 02-14-2012 01:34 AM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rixls6</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a case filed with Ebay for an improperly described aluminum intake. I took pictures and sent them in with my complaint.
Ebay agreed with me and refunded all my money, including shipping charges, and let me keep the intake. I think the seller may have learned a lesson about trying to pull a fast one. </div></div>

i just sold a $600 set of valve covers to a buyer who did not read in the description that the covers didn't fit under a/c and power booster

he filed a paypal claim,and paypal won't do anything for a month.

they didnt get my money,i have paypal blocked from my checking account.

lots of sellers are now doing this as well.

DarrenX33 02-14-2012 01:57 AM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
So now he is finally responding. In the two messages I have received from him I find if funny that he never even asked to see the pictures of the damage which I told him I had taken. I offered but nothing. Perhaps just me but that seems a little guilty.

Anyway, he is now caving in but saying he only wants to refund me the purchase price. I have to pay to ship them back. $50 to get them here and $50 to get them back...

Now that just doesn't seem right to me.

Postsedan 02-14-2012 02:00 AM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DarrenX33</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So now he is finally responding. In the two messages I have received from him I find if funny that he never even asked to see the pictures of the damage which I told him I had taken. I offered but nothing. Perhaps just me but that seems a little guilty.

Anyway, he is now caving in but saying he only wants to refund me the purchase price. I have to pay to ship them back. $50 to get them here and $50 to get them back...

Now that just doesn't seem right to me. </div></div>


Darren, I agree with you 100%. But atleast this may be better than the alternative. Hope it works out.

Dan

Fast67VelleN2O 02-14-2012 02:15 AM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
To be honest, you don't have Wal Mart pay you for the drive back to return something you don't need.

PayPal's return policy states that you get initial shipping refunded back to you.

-Matt

DarrenX33 02-14-2012 02:17 AM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
He also mentions that i could have seen all the detail in the pictures if I CTRL &amp; + to zoom. But he fails to realize that his pics aren't high resolution so when magnified the quality is terrible.

Hemicolt 02-14-2012 02:38 AM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
Tell this guy that he will refund your entire amount or you will have Paypal reverse the charges. His mistake, so he should eat the freight back.
I had an unhappy buyer and I refunded his money and shipping, I also sent a &quot;call tag&quot; from UPS to pick up the package. Sometimes doing the right thing cost the seller a dollar.

DarrenX33 02-20-2012 03:01 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
Well I had to escalate the case for eBay to review and I am now getting 100% of my $ back. Not paying a dime.

Thanks for all the advice here. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

mockingbird812 02-20-2012 03:07 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
Way to go Darren! One for the good guys! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Xplantdad 02-20-2012 09:28 PM

Re: File an eBay case?
 
Good for you D!


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