69 Chevelle with Camaro rear spoiler?
 

did they REALLY do that? Add the Camaro spoiler to the lid of a Chevelle????

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26...1-116157_9.jpg

seriously ... really?

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_detail...aign=CH0911_S80

I have seen some weird spoilers on cars over the years but this one ranks up there with the 55 Chevy I remember in 1971 that someone made a Superbird rear spoiler on the trunk lid out of plywood ...

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This was done by the original owner from Minnesota who also added the Mopar 6 pack hood scoop and Cragers. Honestly, back in the 70's we thought these both looked awesome along with his Scorpion intake.

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Thanks for clarifying that the dealer/Yenko did NOT do that ...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS427</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This was done by the original owner from Minnesota who also added the Mopar 6 pack hood scoop and Cragers.<span style="font-weight: bold"> Honestly, back in the 70's we thought these both looked awesome</span> along with his Scorpion intake.

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ummm, ok, must have been a regional thing, because the &quot;we&quot; you speak of above does not include me ... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

that spoiler looks WAY out of place and out of proportion IMHO, the gaps, the outer edges rubbing on the quarters ... to each their own though ...

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&quot;We&quot; meaning all the guys I hung out with at the MN dragstrips back in the 70's.

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there you go, the &quot;we&quot; WAS regional ... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

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I am with you Jim. We would have gotten laughed out of the Hot Shops if we came in with that stuff on our cars. Besides the Yenko cars that we ran across back then were junk in our opinions and did not run that well. That was dumb on our part though. Was pretty tough to beat a &quot;good running&quot; L78 camaro or nova in those days.

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a good running L78 should be handed its shorts by a good running L72 ... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

maybe the guys with the L78's kept up with their cars, tuning, etc



I have to add these pictures because it is a very similar day 2 mod, but just 10 years later (79 vs 69).

It was what the original owner did with his car on day 2 because HE thought it was cool ...

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26...n/79zlfpav.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26...nn/79zfpav.jpg

cow catchers were all the rage in the late 70's ... even the Yenko Camaro's had them, same with the Cheverra from Herb Adams

The above picture are from last year

yeah, I took them off ...

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26.../79zrf0720.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26.../79zlf0708.jpg

anyone want some Camaro cow catchers? Even have a NOS pair as he bought two sets ...

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I've had two L78 powered cars and the COPO. Combined, about 250K miles. I've ridden in a few other L78 and a couple other COPO Chevelles. None of the L78s that I have had experience with were going to be even a remote threat to the 427. I guess I should stop talking and get the old Chevelle back together. It would be the perfect comparison. Might even be a good magazine article in there somewhere. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img] As for the spoiler, I don't think so. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif[/img]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS427</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This was done by the original owner from Minnesota who also added the Mopar 6 pack hood scoop and Cragers. Honestly, back in the 70's we thought these both looked awesome along with his Scorpion intake.

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Yep....as some of the vintage pics I've posted have pointed out...what was cool then certainly isn't cool now! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif[/img]

Times change... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

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The L78's were really hard to beat around this area. They still pretty much dominate the A+B stock classes over the 427 cars. At least around here. The LS6 cars were pretty fast with some carb, distributor work along with headers and a set of 88's. If I remember correctly the good running ones had air bags too. Of the 2 Yenko camaros I knew of and saw run they were ok running cars. One Zl-1 in Bridgeport was pretty slow but we all know why that was. I just like the L78 motor. You can darn near run it like a 302.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The L78's were really hard to beat around this area. They still pretty much dominate the A+B stock classes over the 427 cars. At least around here. </div></div>
Reckon part of the A+B dominance is due to weight (or lack thereof)?

A wise racer once told me &quot;You ain't gotta tune weight!&quot;

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yes, a little bit of weight factor but the good stock/superstock motor builders feel that the L78 revs a little higher which seems to make that a factor also. seems like the A/SA camaro's are 427 motors. But the new DP Mopars and Mustangs are making them a non factor lately.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yes, a little bit of weight factor but the good stock/superstock motor builders feel that the L78 revs a little higher which seems to make that a factor also. seems like the A/SA camaro's are 427 motors. <span style="font-weight: bold">But the new DP Mopars and Mustangs are making them a non factor lately.</span> </div></div>
A lot of that going around...those new combo killers go pretty deep in the alphabet don't they? I know they play all the way down to D in S/S, but wasn't sure on Stock...I think they have a naturally aspirated C/J down to J/SA?

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It's amazing that 45-50 year old technology is even remotely competitive. Imagine a 1925 model T trying to be competitive with a 1965-70 muscle car. Anyone want to let me in on what it takes to make a street L78 quick? I have a 10K mile set of bare 840 heads waiting for whatever it takes. I already have the Ferrea valves. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Keith Tedford</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's amazing that 45-50 year old technology is even remotely competitive. Imagine a 1925 model T trying to be competitive with a 1965-70 muscle car. Anyone want to let me in on what it takes to make a street L78 quick? I have a 10K mile set of bare 840 heads waiting for whatever it takes. I already have the Ferrea valves. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img] </div></div>
The fact that there are different classes (based on pounds per horsepower) makes it so different era cars actually *can* compete against each other...or at least that's how it's *supposed* to work, assuming the NHRA and the manufacturer were using honest weight/hp numbers, and not stacking the deck. But that's not happening with the Cobra Jets or the Drag Paks. NHRA went with the absurdly low HP numbers submitted by FoMoCo &amp; Mopar, which means these cars rolled off the transporters waaaay too light and running just shy of 1.0 under the index without even a hint of work, thus bumping a ton of guys with literally *decades* of work on their combos out of the field. And the fact that they're even *allowed* to run is the main rub, as the rule for Stock for what, 40 years now(?), was that the car had to be showroom available to the public, DOT legal and licensable, but neither the C/J nor the DP even come with a vin or can be licensed.

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ummmm, I am not sure what the NHRA and indexes have to do with goofy day 2 stuff ... the original post was about a Camaro spoiler on a Chevelle ...

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LOL, you're right...we now return you to your regularly scheduled program. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif[/img]

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Neat info though Rob!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: al8apex</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ummmm, I am not sure what the NHRA and indexes have to do with goofy day 2 stuff ... the original post was about a Camaro spoiler on a Chevelle ... </div></div>That is right Jim. I am known to get off on a tangent when I talk drag racing. My doings!!

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who is the owner, wisconsin plates. I have not seen this one before.

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-----Just reread the Mecum description and saw the reference to &quot;original paint&quot;. If true, (it almost looks too good) thats why the spoiler is still there. Nobody would repaint or restore this Yenko and leave that spoiler on the trunklid......Bill S

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Wasn't this car in Chandler's collection at one time?

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">-----Just reread the Mecum description and saw the reference to &quot;original paint&quot;. If true, (it almost looks too good) thats why the spoiler is still there. Nobody would repaint or restore this Yenko and leave that spoiler on the trunklid......Bill S </div></div>

Didn't it have a different hood or scoops? wrong car? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]

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Keith Hutson had it at the Reunion back in 2001.
The &quot;MOF&quot;

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr Yenko</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Keith Hutson had it at the Reunion back in 2001.
The &quot;MOF&quot; </div></div>

Hey Brian...nice pics in the most recent Hemmings Muscle Machines!! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

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Thanks Bruce. Careful if you go on Hemmings Blog. you will see a horrifying pic of me and a familiar AWESOME blue COPO @ Muscle Palooza from last sunday.
The &quot;MOF&quot;

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I'll have to check that out! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

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Brian, Is that Frank's old Copo that was in the museum in PA?

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That be the ONE.
The &quot;MOF&quot;

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr Yenko</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Keith Hutson had it at the Reunion back in 2001.
The &quot;MOF&quot; </div></div>

Hey Brian...nice pics in the most recent Hemmings Muscle Machines!! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img] </div></div>

Whatchu talkin about Bruce????

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Brian is in the mag with his Yenko (and tattoo). I'll get you the page number when I get home today... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

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Its a scary photo! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img] Nice car, didn't even know you had it!

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Yep...it's on page 35 in the Musclepalooza article!

Way to go Brian!!! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

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Link to the blog BRIAN AT MUSCLEPALOOZA!

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Congrats on the Ink!

Dan

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Congrats on &quot;best Chevrolet&quot; Brian. Nice tat too! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]