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Carleen 12-20-2008 05:24 PM

67 ZL1 ?
 
Found this block at ebay.
Is casting date from -67?
Black Panther ZL1 engine?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...3&viewitem=

olredalert 12-20-2008 05:47 PM

Re: 67 ZL1 ?
 
------A person would be wise to do his due diligence when dealing with this vendor!!!!!!........Bill S

scuncio 12-20-2008 06:08 PM

Re: 67 ZL1 ?
 
What are those marks on the deck above #3 and #7?

William 12-20-2008 06:35 PM

Re: 67 ZL1 ?
 
What ever that is it isn't a casting date. With the exception of ZL-1 Camaros #1 & #2 [which had pilot engines built in Flint] production blocks were cast in '69.

The dimpling on the deck is a crude attempt to achieve better head gasket sealing. Indicates a larger problem.

At second glance I'm not certain that is a production ZL-1 block. There is no snowflake and it does not appear to have provision for a mechanical fuel pump. Hmm...


Kim_Howie 12-20-2008 06:48 PM

Re: 67 ZL1 ?
 
Looks like a can am block??

HiHorse 12-20-2008 06:50 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
------A person would be wise to do his due diligence when dealing with this vendor!!!!!!........Bill S

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Has bought stuff from me, his word and $ was good.

Carleen 12-20-2008 06:58 PM

Re: 67 ZL1 ?
 
Ok, I thought that those marks where after they trying to loose tension at the block.

Nikke

Carleen 12-20-2008 07:08 PM

Re: 67 ZL1 ?
 
I was thinking about this, -67 Black Panther.

Gorries offered both the 327 and 427 V-8 engine options for their Panthers. The basic 327 had 210 HP. The 275HP L30 engine, at 10:1 compression made 355FT pounds of torque at 3,200 RPM. The optional blueprinted 427 - 435HP, ZL1 engine with its neck snapping 460FT pounds of torque at 4,000 RPM put some real teeth in the Panthers. At 12:1 compression, the ZL1 engine with its large 925 CFM 4-barrel carburetor proved to be a formal opponent for the Shelby GT-500 Mustangs, which carried the 428 big-block Ford engine, but only developed 355HP in 1967.

http://dibn.net/AutoLegends/

Jerry@CHP 12-20-2008 10:10 PM

Re: 67 ZL1 ?
 
Does not have the bolt-in cam plug either. Looks to me like someone ground off the Winters logo. We can fix that for the next owner. Done about two dozen so far. LOL.

I'm sure that this block won't pass a pressure test either. Nothing that $$$ can't fix.

Jerry

Jerry@CHP 12-20-2008 10:13 PM

Re: 67 ZL1 ?
 
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Here are two good ones!

Jerry

Carleen 12-20-2008 10:17 PM

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It have same marks underneath.
Ive have those at my iron block too.

Nikke

Carleen 12-21-2008 01:12 AM

Re: 67 ZL1 ?
 
Ive asked Cranes Corvette for more and better pictures.


Nikke

owners2 12-21-2008 01:31 AM

Re: 67 ZL1 ?
 
I've bought from him before.Besides the fact he gave me some attitude at first all went well with my transaction & i was very satisfied with what i bought.

TDW 12-21-2008 02:16 AM

Re: 67 ZL1 ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Here are two good ones!

Jerry

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Beautiful, just beautiful!

1969grb 12-21-2008 02:27 AM

Re: 67 ZL1 ?
 
Bill S, Now why would you say that? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif
Grady

scuncio 12-21-2008 02:58 AM

Re: 67 ZL1 ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
It have same marks underneath.
Ive have those at my iron block too.

Nikke

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Those look like classic peening marks intended to tighten up the fit of the main caps to the block. Seen that many times.

Carleen 12-21-2008 05:55 AM

Re: 67 ZL1 ?
 
No suffix code.
The pad is blank. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

Nikke

olredalert 12-21-2008 06:09 AM

Re: 67 ZL1 ?
 
-----Grady,,,A customer of mine bought a car from him that was vastly misrepresented,,,mainly. That and years of experiences with him. I do have to say that some of Davids repro stuff is absolutely great, big-block valve covers and 63 Corvette consoles come to mind......Bill S

Carleen 12-21-2008 06:10 AM

Re: 67 ZL1 ?
 
I was asking about better photos.
This is the answer.

of what feature?

Businessman? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

Nikke

1969grb 12-21-2008 06:45 AM

Re: 67 ZL1 ?
 
Bill, I know what you mean. I also agree his big block valve covers are very nice. Grady https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

VintageMusclecar 12-21-2008 05:38 PM

Re: 67 ZL1 ?
 
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What are those marks on the deck above #3 and #7?

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Notice those cylinders are the ones where the "extra" head bolt(s) were intended to go (no provisions for bolts in those locations on a standard pass. car block, they were added for race applications--note the bosses in the lifter valley where the fasteners would go into the bottom of the head)

Since this was a very common location for a head gasket to let go if the "extra" head bolts weren't used, some racers dimpled the deck here in an attempt to give the head gasket something to bite into to prevent them from blowing out.

Jerry@CHP 12-21-2008 08:27 PM

Re: 67 ZL1 ?
 
We haven't used the extra bolt holes on the ZL-1 engines that we've built in the past. No need to if the engine is built right with the correct head gasket. We dyno all ZL-1 engines that are built a CHP to make sure there are no issues.

Jerry

Carleen 12-21-2008 08:59 PM

Re: 67 ZL1 ?
 
http://www.guinns-engineering.com/Pa...type%20ZL1.htm

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smirk.gif
Nikke


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