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scuncio 11-28-2020 08:23 PM

Sweet '70 LT1 Corvette Convertible, Warranty Block, GM of Canada Docs
 
Neat car...and well documented. Near the top of the list of C3s I'd like to own someday.

Kinda feel like one of us needs to buy this, if for no other reason than to throw those tires in the trash and swap on a nice set of repop pinstripe whites.

Neat to see the old microfiche from GM Canada, before they stopped providing it.

Link to 1970 LT1 Corvette auction

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AnthonyS 11-28-2020 09:27 PM

I think I see at least two LS5 cars on that microfilm, one stick and one auto.

One of my good friends had a black & saddle’70 LT-1 in high school in 1988. Fun memory.

olredalert 11-28-2020 09:47 PM

----Geez,,,I like the car! It appears to be all there and decent. But for the love of God, what's up with the height? Way to high. I guess it's correctable but why would the owner not make that right? Oh, and then there's the headers.......Bill S

Lynn 11-29-2020 12:11 AM

Not to mention the color change. No big deal on a pro touring car, but I don't get it on a car like this. Just lost a large percentage of the audience.

LT1vette 11-29-2020 02:05 AM

Definitely some issues under the hood, wrong parts everywhere. Engine with a CE block, lot of those available and an easy restamp.
The biggest knock against the value is the colour change. White LT1's are super rare, it is one of the rarest for a LT1 and then a convert on top of that....

scuncio 01-14-2021 02:13 AM

No-sale the last time around with a $34k max bid, and relisted in the link below.

Link to 1970 LT1 Corvette Convertible auction

dykstra 01-14-2021 12:39 PM

Wow! 4:11 gear too. I bet that car is a screamer and a hoot to drive!!

Zedder 01-14-2021 03:20 PM

I’m seriously looking for an LT-1 and have a number of wanted ads listed on different sites. I can’t believe how many truly outstanding unrestored cars are out there. Most are in the $50-$60k range for coupes - we are talking sub-20,000 mile cars. One 72 LT-1 with a/c and 6,000 miles is like a brand new car. However, that one is a lot more expensive!!

olredalert 01-14-2021 04:14 PM

----With the change in color and the non-original engine along with headers, etc. the $34,400 is probably about a decent retail price. We will see what happens the second time. It is a good looking LT1....Bill S

LT1vette 01-14-2021 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by olredalert (Post 1531883)
----With the change in color and the non-original engine along with headers, etc. the $34,400 is probably about a decent retail price. We will see what happens the second time. It is a good looking LT1....Bill S

What did someone say...? "A fool and his money are easily separated!"

To make that car "right" is going to take easy $10K or more depending on bodywork, I'm thinking higher... So at $45K you are in deep.....

Bill send me that $$, I think I can do better investing for you.....LOL

72-SS-L48 01-14-2021 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LT1vette (Post 1524631)
Definitely some issues under the hood, wrong parts everywhere. Engine with a CE block, lot of those available and an easy restamp.
The biggest knock against the value is the colour change. White LT1's are super rare, it is one of the rarest for a LT1 and then a convert on top of that....

They are rare. Here's our born with original motor, trans, rear, no hit body LT1. Full docs and CCAS certified (engine pad and trim tag).

Best,
Dave

L72Biscayne 01-14-2021 08:45 PM

That car looks good in White. Is that leather interior? Is that a late build car? It has the 71 grilles. I had a Donnybrook Green convertible for 22 years. It had power windows, shoulder harness,tinted glass,PO2 wheel covers with Black walls. Sold it back in 06 to a guy from California that shipped it to Switzerland. I sold it to buy a 66 L72 coupe. I should've kept the LT-1. I got $48K for it then. That was one of my favorite cars. That car would rev and pull hard. Nothing like the sound of solid lifters in a convertible.

olredalert 01-14-2021 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LT1vette (Post 1531893)
What did someone say...? "A fool and his money are easily separated!"

To make that car "right" is going to take easy $10K or more depending on bodywork, I'm thinking higher... So at $45K you are in deep.....

Bill send me that $$, I think I can do better investing for you.....LOL

----I said retail price. I wouldn't pay that myself!......Bill S

72-SS-L48 01-15-2021 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by L72Biscayne (Post 1531905)
That car looks good in White. Is that leather interior? Is that a late build car? It has the 71 grilles. I had a Donnybrook Green convertible for 22 years. It had power windows, shoulder harness,tinted glass,PO2 wheel covers with Black walls. Sold it back in 06 to a guy from California that shipped it to Switzerland. I sold it to buy a 66 L72 coupe. I should've kept the LT-1. I got $48K for it then. That was one of my favorite cars. That car would rev and pull hard. Nothing like the sound of solid lifters in a convertible.

STD black interior and yes very late car. They are lots of fun when well sorted out and done correctly.

LT1vette 01-15-2021 01:06 AM

1970 LT1 Convert, white, RARE....

VERY very few LT1's in white, not the regular colour like now.. ( greys, blues GREEn very popular)
Only rarer...71 LT1 Convt, white w/ac (next to ZR2)

72-SS-L48 01-15-2021 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by LT1vette (Post 1531951)
1970 LT1 Convert, white, RARE....

VERY very few LT1's in white, not the regular colour like now.. ( greys, blues GREEn very popular)
Only rarer...71 LT1 Convt, white w/ac (next to ZR2)

Yes with one small correction. No AC in a 71 LT1. 72 you could get solid lifters and AC. I believe that’s only the second time in Corvette history next to the 65 365hp motor which you could get optional AC.

I’d also say the ZR1’s and ZR2’s are certainly rarer. Also the LS6’s.

LT1vette 01-16-2021 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 72-SS-L48 (Post 1531982)
Yes with one small correction. No AC in a 71 LT1. 72 you could get solid lifters and AC. I believe that’s only the second time in Corvette history next to the 65 365hp motor which you could get optional AC.

I’d also say the ZR1’s and ZR2’s are certainly rarer. Also the LS6’s.

I should have said "72" for the 71 with ac, I stand corrected.

But lets stay with comparing apples to apples here, Zr1/ZR2 are not in question.

For an LT1, White was one of the rarest colours ordered, if not the rarest

firstgenaddict 01-18-2021 12:42 PM

Black is the rarest LT1 color. So far one LT1 has surfaced which has the paper to prove it was black when it left St Louis and thus will not have deductions applied for non original paint color in the NCRS.

FWIW currently there are 4 known provable black 70-72's. There are 2 black 72's - base motor coupe and base motor roadster and 2 black 71's - a loaded LS5 2 top roadster and the LT1 coupe.
I have been in contact with the original owner of a 70 LS5 coupe which he states he ordered and recieved in Black.

If I were after a white one it would have to be a 70 with Bright Blue or any year with Red interior.

LT1vette 01-18-2021 02:29 PM

Hi... never even thought about black. But now that you mention it I would agree. Black was NOT a desirable colour in the early 70's. Green very common, red of course, then blues and silvers. Yellow was also around, the first 10 72 LT1's shipped to Canada were all shipped the same day, probably as "showroom display" cars.
I have records on about 40+ LT1's from 70-72 that I have not looked at in 15+ years. I had a 3 digit NCRS number then too

olredalert 01-18-2021 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by firstgenaddict (Post 1532439)
Black is the rarest LT1 color. So far one LT1 has surfaced which has the paper to prove it was black when it left St Louis and thus will not have deductions applied for non original paint color in the NCRS.

FWIW currently there are 4 known provable black 70-72's. There are 2 black 72's - base motor coupe and base motor roadster and 2 black 71's - a loaded LS5 2 top roadster and the LT1 coupe.
I have been in contact with the original owner of a 70 LS5 coupe which he states he ordered and recieved in Black.

If I were after a white one it would have to be a 70 with Bright Blue or any year with Red interior.

----I worked for a Hyannis Ma. used car dealer on and off in the early 70's and he bought around 4 or 5 Corvette converts new in primer, and then had them painted black when they came in. Only one of them was a 454 and I think it was a 72!......Bill S

LT1vette 01-19-2021 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by olredalert (Post 1532475)
----I worked for a Hyannis Ma. used car dealer on and off in the early 70's and he bought around 4 or 5 Corvette converts new in primer, and then had them painted black when they came in. Only one of them was a 454 and I think it was a 72!......Bill S

Hi... I have seen 1 maybe 2 cars like that. Not sure if they were in the 70's. I think they had an abbreviation on the order with "SPEC' marked on it for paint.....

olredalert 01-19-2021 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LT1vette (Post 1532587)
Hi... I have seen 1 maybe 2 cars like that. Not sure if they were in the 70's. I think they had an abbreviation on the order with "SPEC' marked on it for paint.....

----Back then I never knew enough to look at a trim tag,,,LOL!.....Bill S

firstgenaddict 01-19-2021 04:03 PM

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I think it was more the fact that the bodies were not that straight and issues with bonding seams etc.
The NCRS C3 judges told me that nearly every Early C3 had paint work done prior to leaving St Louis - I thought my LT1 had been touched up in a few places, however the areas are the same on nearly every car, including a 2k mile car with overspray on the base of the windshield and overspray on the edge of the outer tail light lenses.

FWIW Not all of the black cars have the same indications in the paint field on the TT. I have seen SPECIAL - SPEC - SPC -
The 71 LT1(March built) has SPC - the 71 LS5 (june built) has the entire word SPECIAL.
GM Overseas distribution stated that they had to put the paint color out for bid at the assembly plant - the charge was $83.00 to paint the LT1 black and required a nearly 20% down - $1000 non refundable deposit -prior to entering the order.
(my father said he had a 57 chevrolet painted in 1971 for $125, including removing the trim and spot primer, then refitting trim etc)

SMS 09-23-2022 01:53 PM

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Just stumbled on this old post. I owned the 70 LT-1 roadster in this thread about 20 years ago. When I bought it it smoked like a diesel. Freshened up the engine and discovered the piston rings had been installed upside down. The heads had been milled heavily and the pistons were +030 12.5:1. It might have had 13:1 compression. Cleaning it out there were time slips under the seat and it ran 12.8 on street tires with headers and full exhaust.

I did not have the GM Canada docs, but I did drop the tank and photographed the tank sticker and knew it was an LT-1. The engine block was stamped with the VIN and I believe I recall a CTK suffix, but the casting date on the block was 1974. I don't know how they came to note for the ad that it was a warranty block, I assumed an uneducated re-stamp on a bad date block.

Nevertheless it was a fun car. Wonder where she went after this.

LT1vette 09-24-2022 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by LT1vette (Post 1532587)
Hi... I have seen 1 maybe 2 cars like that. Not sure if they were in the 70's. I think they had an abbreviation on the order with "SPEC' marked on it for paint.....


Just thought of another Vette I saw at a shop I worked from. It was delivered in primer from the factory, not sure of the year, 70-72....


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