Re: 69 Camaro BB w Baldwin Chevy Connection
 

I assume if u guys made him a "close to asking price" offer that it is indeed a all#s matching orig L78 car at least?

Re: 69 Camaro BB w Baldwin Chevy Connection
 

Looked to be "numbers matching"
I was just ther for support
My pal is a Chevrolet guy
He knows more about
Correctness on camaros
Than I do ... ( No paperwork found or
Mentioned ) great history but again no paperwork...
Just an old muscle car
Run hard and put away wet ..
So to speak ..
Well is the car wort restoring ?
He likes a car with paperwork as I do ....
( I have some paperwork for my car )
The offer he made was VERY
Reasonable cash in hand ..
So he walked .. As I said my
Friend can afford to restore this car
( he has several frame off restored
Muscle cars ) Ias we all know these cars
take very substantial investments
To obtain and restore ... Some us
Prefer a paper trail before
Investing in them
I'm with gto dons comments
On this ... Ziggy l78
You can take a ride down to new
England to look at this car
It's not too far for you to go....
I'm done w this .....

Re: 69 Camaro BB w Baldwin Chevy Connection
 

Nothing has been mentioned about the build sheet.If I looked at this car and found out that no attempt has been made to remove any of the seats,door panels or gas tank,I would be very interested.If the rear or trans turned out to be original to the car and proper for an L78,I would buy it.I sure wouldn't walk just because the owner wouldn't drop on his price.At 25K I think this car would be getting a lot more press and 5K either way,means nothing to me.Take a Battery,headers and plugs and see if the car runs.I'm sure that if you showed the seller some cash,he wouldn't mind you trying to get to run.

I understand the barn find deal but why do guys try and sell a car like this and don't spend a couple of days cleaning it up?The interior is not that bad and if you could some how tell that the front seat was original,it could be a low mileage car.Clean it up,throw some used headers and mufflers on the car and get it running.Add some used Rally wheels or nice Cragars.If you can't do most of the work and want to fully restore a car like this then maybe you should keep looking.To someone that knows how to do most of the work except for say paint,I think it's a good deal.
Sh*t.It's a gold 69 big block SS 4 speed!What more do you want?

Re: 69 Camaro BB w Baldwin Chevy Connection
 

with all the above said.....how come this car is still for sale if it is a good deal, worth the money, a rare car, don't care about paperwork, just needs some TLC or whatever? get this car bought and maybe to the SLS this year.

Re: 69 Camaro BB w Baldwin Chevy Connection
 

I do love the CL ad quote:

"Body in decent condition for 45 year old Ma veh"

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif[/img]

You don't have to drive a car in the winter in Massachusetts for it to rust away. The salt air near the Mass coast vaporizes sheetmetal especially in places where condensation forms, like internal gaps between panels. So that quote is one helluva disclaimer.

Re: 69 Camaro BB w Baldwin Chevy Connection
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I do love the CL ad quote:

&quot;Body in decent condition for 45 year old Ma veh&quot;

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif[/img]

You don't have to drive a car in the winter in Massachusetts for it to rust away. The salt air near the Mass coast vaporizes sheetmetal especially in places where condensation forms, like internal gaps between panels. So that quote is one helluva disclaimer. </div></div>it's fine. It was in a climate controlled barn protected from the elements.

Re: 69 Camaro BB w Baldwin Chevy Connection
 

I like the idea of the car at SLS6! I'd bet there is a lot of things that could be documented on a car like that....BKH

Re: 69 Camaro BB w Baldwin Chevy Connection
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I do love the CL ad quote:

&quot;Body in decent condition for 45 year old Ma veh&quot;

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif[/img]

You don't have to drive a car in the winter in Massachusetts for it to rust away. The salt air near the Mass coast vaporizes sheetmetal especially in places where condensation forms, like internal gaps between panels. So that quote is one helluva disclaimer. </div></div>
See above 30.000 bucks for a rusty car is not cheap by most
People's standards unless you do the work
Yourself ..... You will have 100k in it
Could you get that back ??????
Doubtful on most muscle cars these days ....
Now I'm finished w this ....I'm with
What gto don said in this thread .....
If this car was such a deal for 30k or close
It would have sold by now it has been for sale
Before .... !!!!

Re: 69 Camaro BB w Baldwin Chevy Connection
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bkhpah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like the idea of the car at SLS6! I'd bet there is a lot of things that could be documented on a car like that....BKH</div></div>

maybe that car can be rented for a weekend or so. its just sitting there.

Re: 69 Camaro BB w Baldwin Chevy Connection
 

Rent A Wreck went out of business years ago.

Re: 69 Camaro BB w Baldwin Chevy Connection
 

That Gold L78 4 speed really pulls on my heart strings.

Would love to see some close up pictures.

Ryan

Re: 69 Camaro BB w Baldwin Chevy Connection
 

Oh you guys. If this had been a member's car we would all be saying what a great survivor it was and fairly priced! ;-)

Re: 69 Camaro BB w Baldwin Chevy Connection
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: daverd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Went to look at it with a friend of mine (realty Company owner) friend brought cash very close to what owner Wants now
No sale ......The Camaro owner thinks he got a gold mine There ( more like a golden turd)
Good luck on that sale.
Car needs full resto.... And then some...</div></div>

That's too bad your friend didn't get the car. Did he inspect the condition of the floors, trunk, frame etc...? The reason I ask is the bottom of the driver's side door looked decent in the one picture. Did he confirm it was a numbers matching motor?

It sounds like the owner is firm which is too bad as it would probably sell if he came down a little. As long as it has the original drivetrain, paperwork really isn't an issue but he's trying to sell the BM story without anything substantial backing it up.

Thanks for the update, Kurt

Re: 69 Camaro BB w Baldwin Chevy Connection
 

Actually, this has already been done at MCACN. The original &quot;barn find&quot; appearance at MCACN was the 1967 427/435 Corvette that we had in the 2011 show. It was shod with whitewall snow tires, exactly as found!

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

Re: 69 Camaro BB w Baldwin Chevy Connection
 

25k won't buy it.

Re: 69 Camaro BB w Baldwin Chevy Connection
 

He should take that 25K.

Re: 69 Camaro BB w Baldwin Chevy Connection
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scuncio</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh you guys. If this had been a member's car we would all be saying what a great survivor it was and fairly priced! ;-) </div></div>

Not sure I would say that Tony. Does not look like alot has survived on that car from here.

Re: 69 Camaro BB w Baldwin Chevy Connection
 

Out of curiosity.... Do many 69 Camaro L78's have their original engines? I ask because many 70 Z28's don't, but have trim tags that denote them as Z28's. When I am looking at a 70Z, I personally value it more if it is an original engine vehicle.

I agree that 25 would be a fair number for this car, but if this was your &quot;dream&quot; car, 30k for a keeper is not that big a difference in the grand scheme of things.

Rich

Re: 69 Camaro BB w Baldwin Chevy Connection
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scuncio</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh you guys. If this had been a member's car we would all be saying what a great survivor it was and fairly priced! ;-) </div></div>

Not sure I would say that Tony. Does not look like alot has survived on that car from here. </div></div>

Just my experience Sam, but I have to disagree. Even in the early 1990s when I was looking for my first car, most of the 1st gen X33/X66 Camaros already had small blocks or incorrect 454s. The fact that this thing has survived in a late-70s time warp with the original motor is pretty amazing IMO. We're talking 35-ish untouched years.

Re: 69 Camaro BB w Baldwin Chevy Connection
 

In that respect YES. But how much can really be saved as in &quot;survivor&quot; status is questionable. Would not mind having it but I think it would take alot of work to make it a strong #2 car!

Re: 69 Camaro BB w Baldwin Chevy Connection
 

OK, I'm jumping in here on page 11 of this thing. I read the first couple pages so this my be a repeat, I'm not sure. So no docs, what about a build sheet? It may be in a door or under a seat. The paint can be wet sanded and buffed and my detail guy can bring that interior back to the best condition possible considering what is in the car. With no repaint, just restoring the paint that is there and replacing the missing stripe, pull the motor, disassemble and check it. Replace only what it needs (NOS if possible)and reassemble it without repainting it, but cleaning it and the engine bay, service the trans and rear and redoing all of the breaks and making it safe. Your looking at a little more than 5K, but not by a lot. Buy it for $30K if that is THE car you want, possibly find a build sheet in it and be driving it cleaned up, but by no means &quot;Restored&quot; for around or maybe a little less than $40K. If that is worth the investment to you, why not. Drive it for a few years, cruise around town in it and take it to the drag strip and run in the slightly modified class or put the manifolds back on it and run strictly stock. Have fun with it and wait a few years to put the &quot;Restoration&quot; money in it. Depending on how mush sheet metal it will need, you will still have more invested in total that you can sell it for, but you enjoyed it and had fun with it and drove you initial investment out of it so to speak, you had fun with it and so a further big investment won't hurt you feelings so bad. By that time it may be worth more than your total investment anyway, and you had fun in it. If it is the &quot;born with&quot; drive train, it may be a good long term investment if you look at it from a profit standpoint.