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True Bill P. ! I was wondering if anyone else had seen the car , paperwork etc as I was having doubt's about my impressions on the car and if anyone knew for sure ,...I'd appreciate a private email with there thoughts ??( [email protected])

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I read on the Team Camaro site that the report from MacNeish is 3 pages long. It isn't his job to tear the car apart to look at all the date stamps and the hidden VIN stamps. He does a visual inspection of the TT, VIN plate and major components. It would be impossible for him to disect every car he inspects. If the car in question had a factory issued TT,VIN plate, rivets in the TT are genuine and there is no evidence of tampering to the firewall, should MacNeish go any farther in looking for a rebody? Or anything for that matter? I don't see how the "Expert got fooled" is the right statement to make here.

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Maybe the "experts" or appraisers for that matter need to have a disclaimer in their report to indemnify them from verification of original body, block, trans, etc. and potential legal proceedings. What more can they do than verify what they can see on the surface? Sure you can get a scope in some hidden places but some changes are very difficult if not impossible to detect. Where does this leave the uneducated buyer or owner? I research all the cars I buy before hand but I am sure that an owner isn't going to let me rip the whole car apart before I buy it.

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BJ is just the vehicle to sell the car...that's all. They are in business to offer a place to sell a car...that's it...end of story.

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I agree.
Several years ago, Tiffanys was pissed that so much fake "Tiffanys" jewelry was being sold on Ebay. Tiffanys did a little undercover work and purchased several thousand so called REAL pieces of Tiffanys jewelry off eBay. Over 70% were fake. Tiffanys sued eBay claiming eBay facilatated counterfeiting. In July this year, A Federal judge ruled in favor of eBay. I don't see much difference between.

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I read on the Team Camaro site that the report from MacNeish is 3 pages long. It isn't his job to tear the car apart to look at all the date stamps and the hidden VIN stamps. He does a visual inspection of the TT, VIN plate and major components. It would be impossible for him to disect every car he inspects. If the car in question had a factory issued TT,VIN plate, rivets in the TT are genuine and there is no evidence of tampering to the firewall, should MacNeish go any farther in looking for a rebody? Or anything for that matter? I don't see how the "Expert got fooled" is the right statement to make here.

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Think about it.........If Jerry was to really "Certify" beyond any doubt..........Is that really possible.........He's brought a "Paper Trail" Numbers car.....Would the owner allow someone to take the car down to the point of removing the paint and Primer to check for any apparent deceptive metal working in the Hidden Vin Area's.........I don't think so....So......In that Case, How is anything validated anymore.........I heard of a ZL-1 that is being rebodied where the restorer (Owner???) found an old timer who came in to Hammer Weld the hidden vin #'s in to be non detectable.........Again.....The "Publically" known real cars have probably the Best Validation.......The Cars that fall out of the Sky after all these years are the ones that "Really" need to be looked at Closer.....
Are they what they are.........Or......What the Owner wants them to be.........With the Legal Exposure as it is today......Who could or would ever "Validate" 100% that it is anything other than what the Car "Appears" to be....

Just my $.02

Ken
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I'm so tired of all this sh!t....

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this is the "[censored]"i have been saying would happen!!!!!

told you all so!!!

but you guys killed the messenger!!!!

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I think we've heard how you've tried to save all of us a few times now Wagonman!

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Only problem this time is someone used real tags and paperwork to fake a car, as opposed to fake paperwork and tags.

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Why does the Wagonmeister think his flip-flop to the warning angle is new information to anyone here?.

What does 67rscoupe think?

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