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I'd love to go there just to see all the cars...has to be the greatest car show on earth.


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I have heard it's quite a party as well. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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i couldn't believe brock yates said that about that motion corvette that was just unbelievable.i hope he gets a few hate emails for that comment !!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif

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old brock yates should take a coffee break when the muscle cars are hitting the block, he has no knowledge of them at all!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif

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I'd love to go there just to see all the cars...has to be the greatest car show on earth.

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Can't argue with that! The pictures Bruce took show an awesome collection of cars. And I'm sitting here in NJ swapping out the steering stabilizer on my 88 4Runner today in 38 degree weather! Man I'm dumb! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ffSucksToo.gif

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I think there is also some jealousy at play here. Notice how the american muscle and hot rods have killed the forgein stuff price ways..like their beloved porches and fairies. I think they have "shrinkage" even thinking about it.

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Pretty funny line Whitetop--- https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif--- https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

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Brock doesn't like the Motion Vette.

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Because he doesn't even know what it is.....he's supposed to be a car guy. Can you tell he's a Car and Driver guy or what? He doesn't seem to know anything about the musclecars and he doesn't seem to appreciate them at all. Some of his comments are just idiotic. I especially like the one where he commented on the '63 split window coupe when he said, "now if this was a '63 with a big block it would really bring big money". The other commentators had to tell him that they never made such a car. Unbelievable.

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Thats a good one! 'OL Brock also had to look inside the 1968 Z-28 (NOM car) to see if it had the manual or auto trans package.

$210K for the BM Vette... Isn't that a fair price?

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He asked if the Z was a Powerglide !!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

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Are those NEW ford Gt's worth 280,000 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

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$210K for the BM Vette... Isn't that a fair price?

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Dan, I thought it was a fair price,--I just thought the hammer came down a little quick--All I saw was That fella Jim ,with a phone bid,frantically signaling to the auctioneer to sell to him and boom it was over--I thought he would search a little harder for other buyers since it seemed like it was on a steady climb--"IMO"--The bottom line is, as long as the seller is satisfied---

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Was kind of quick in comparison to the Marlboro Maroon 67 427 435hp Vette that went through tonight that the Auctioneer would not give up on. It seemed like he took the time it would take to send three cars through. Finally he brought a stale high bid of $100K up to $112K. Vettes like that sold for $150K the night before. I bet the seller was ready to blow his brains out with a Desert Eagle .50 cal after seeing the outcome of that Debacle! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Brock Yates also pissed-off Alan DeCadanet when that silver B-J Lotus Elise was on the block. Yates was hacking on the Elise and said, "There's an old saying: Give a British guy a piece of metal and he'll do something stupid with it." Alan sounded offended and replied, "Brock, I've never heard that saying and I think you just made that up." That was about the most exciting dialogue of the whole day.

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They were pointing out some touch up issues on that maroon Vette...maybe we couldn't see it's real condition..and those Elises are probably a ball to drive...I think they weigh 5 or 6 pounds.

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Bob, do you think George bought the vette back himself?? I was under the impression that he wanted 400k for that car. I must be missing something. I think with all the crazy prices that 210 was a deal for the vette. Im surprised he let it go for that.

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And if an owner buys his car back does he still owe B-J the 8% fee?

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No Don...I was talking about the marron Vette where they were pointing out touch ups..what I said was I would have made a u-turn and drove that puppy back home and had fun with it....his daughter had a smile from ear to ear!!! She was on TV with that big grin...bet she is gonna miss Daddy's car ! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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oh really, what if that red super bee WAS well documented and you had a couple other people wanting it also. how high would you go?

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jeff, if i had what you have being restored i wouldn't let that stabalizer bother me.

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Yes, the three idiots said that the seller would still have to pay the listing fee and the 8% if they bought their own car back.

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the big guy standing behind the car was going against ferrari dude....did you not see him go get in his face about the car at 2 mill.....

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Yeah, I saw the "in the face" at $2 mil, but then Ferrari dude sat in the car and the auctioneer just kept yelling higher numbers, and Ferrari Dude would nod his head. After $2 mil I didnt see anyone else bidding against him. And then that idiot TV wanker starts trying to interview him in mid auction, with intelligent banter like "So I'm a Scorpio, you come here often?"

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The Motion Vette did indeed sell,& is real money bid by another.This from a Friend of mine down there.He said it's going to stay west now.
I believe I heard 8% of the final bid price is paid by the buyer & seller each.As stated on Thursday.
So 16% extra is paid on the final bid,that B/J collects.
Isn't Tony,the one who owns/owned the Motion Corvette,& George is his good close friend? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Either some of those high rollers are really smart, or the rest of us now paupers are real dumb.

Mr Arrogant Ferrari Man was so wound up in his 'tude, he didn't realize the ONLY guy bidding against him never opened his mouth after it reached 2 mil, and then he got in his face. He threw away a cool 1.16 mil of someone's money. Then he's on his knee's and crying? probably doing the same thing today esplaining to the money man how he stupidly threw away 1 mil cause he wasn't paying attention. He could have bought 7 more Corvette's with that savings...

Who was the big guy with the Tennessee hat anyways?

JH

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question...The way I understand the bidding is if you are high bidder thats it...the auctioneer will say sir you have the bid or something like that...and look around for the other bidder or a new one...right???...I don't see how he can bid against himself...I understand when its his turn to counter bid he can jump to what ever number turns him on but not bid against himself...I would think if thats the case there would be recourse with BJ as they bid him up with no other bidder.....I agree he was wound up and not using his head but I guess I don't understand the process if thats how it really goes down and sticks...

Bud.

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<font color="blue">That would suk, if the auction house would actually 'let' you bid against yourself,
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Somebody just bought a yellow rod. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...arleySucks.gif

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Must be nice to have BJ money....

oh that didn't come out right.. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/blush.gif
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Brock doesn't like the Motion Vette.

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That's an understatement...not only did he call B-M the "Pimp My Ride" of Chevrolet cars, but said if the guy listed it in Hemmings tomorrow he'd only get half that! OUCH!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

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this Brock guy sounds like a real half-wit.. I wish I was able to watch the auction in action.. but I just can't seem to pick it up on the bunny ears antannea... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif

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The Ferrari man also bought the 61 Chrysler 300 for 190.00 and Hemi cuda for about 300.00 he also if I remember right bought four Ferraris last year I heard his brother owns Gateway computers and they started a car museum in Colorado

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i couldn't believe brock yates said that about that motion corvette that was just unbelievable.i hope he gets a few hate emails for that comment !!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif

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Hopefully Pantara walked up and bitch-slapped him off camera https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

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question...The way I understand the bidding is if you are high bidder thats it...the auctioneer will say sir you have the bid or something like that...and look around for the other bidder or a new one...right???...I don't see how he can bid against himself...I understand when its his turn to counter bid he can jump to what ever number turns him on but not bid against himself...I would think if thats the case there would be recourse with BJ as they bid him up with no other bidder.....I agree he was wound up and not using his head but I guess I don't understand the process if thats how it really goes down and sticks...

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Someone should forward him a copy of the video of his bidding so he can throw it in BJ's face and say: "Here's my last un-countered bid at 1.7 million. Here's my check for 1.7 mill. If you got a problem lets let the attorneys (and the press) handle it and see how the public feels about your shill bidding procedures."

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The Motion Vette did indeed sell,&amp; is real money bid by another.This from a Friend of mine down there.He said it's going to stay west now.

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I think George restored the car and was taking care of all these arrangements around it being at BJ, but he isn't the cars owner. I'm pretty sure he's a close friend of the owner. Another thing to point out is this is the first time a Motion Phase III GT has been for sale publicly this way. And being so few were made and the owners having a tight grip on them, until now there hasn't been anything to base a real "value" on these machines. What do you compare it to?? I think $210k for a nice Motion GT is a strong starting point. The thing about this Gold/Black GT that me and Larry have thrown questions at each other about, is it a BALDWIN sold car with paperwork from Baldwin Chev.?? These days it seems every single Motion prepared car gets labled as a "Baldwin/Motion"..whatever it is.. But doesn't a Motion car sold though Baldwin (a true Baldwin/Motion car) hold a higher value than just a Motion car?? I would think so. So having Baldwin Chevy AND Motion Performance docs on a car would make it worth more than a comparable car that is just a Motion Performance car right? My only question about this GT that just went through Barret-Jackson... is it a "Baldwin/Motion" Phase III GT?? Or is it a "Motion" Phase III GT?? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif I haven't been told whether it has documentation or not.. Magazine articles and fact of it being used in Motion advertising doesn't make it a Baldwin Chevy car.

Another question would be how much more of a value would a Baldwin/Motion car have over a very similar Motion only car..?? I think guys like Mark Hassett, Dan McMichael and Kevin Suydam would have some quality imput on this question.

not making a big deal about it, just wondering a bit. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif

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I think there was a phone bidder on the 3-million '54 Olds concept car and that's why we didn't actually see another bidder going against "Ferrari guy." I'm almost positive it was Ferrari guy against the phone bidder.

Bud's right, you can't bid against yourself. When it's your turn to bid you can throw down a big number to try to knock the other guy(s) out of the running but if the bidding stalls you can't keep yelling out bids without at least one other bidder pushing the price higher. What would be the point of bidding against yourself? Yeah, there's some questionable prices being paid (IMO) for some of those cars but no one out there is paying one cent more unless another bidder makes them.

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i may be mistaken but i thought i kept hearing the guy say to anna "am i out, am i out"

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Has anybody actually seen a B/J Seller bid to own his own Vehicle back?
We know they allow it,but I'm curious to know how obvious they really are about it?
Is the seller on stage doing it in front of the camera,or do they have a buddy do it for him in the seats,or online,or is the actual seller on the other end of a cell phone bidding just outside the Tent? or... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

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It's not a very good strategy for the guy to announce that he will pay any price to have the car while the bidding is going on. I don’t want to sound like a conspiracy nut, but if you got a sucker then a “phone bidder” is a perfect way to get him to keep upping the price.

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gemleeus - Maybe it was well documented. I don't know. I know I liked it a lot! I know I have to have a hemi. That 68 Plymouth factory hot rod would be absolutely perfect. But one of the lightweight racers would be even better. It will happen one day. Or I will insist that my wife bury me in one!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

I was 15 or 16 when I looked under the hood of one. I was mesmerized. Still am. Maybe that's what's wrong with me. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

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I would have thought the Motion Vette might have gone for a bit more, but IMHO the people that the BM cars appeal to are not typically "Vette Guys" and the "Vette Guys" like their cars stock.

I was thinking this car was sold from a PA dealer and not Baldwin. That would certainly impact the value of a car, but I think because it is a vette, there is a smaller group of buyers for this type of car versus a BM Camaro for instance. The market has spoken in this case.

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I think you are right on the money COPO....Vette guys won't see enough overspray and glue drips....it was a beauty though....his little girl was sure diggin it on national TV !!! I still can't get over the tail lights on those GT's.

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Actually...I walked up to him anonymously and told him to tell his buddies on the show that they don't have a clue....that maybe they should just shut up if they don't know, or maybe do some research on rare and unique cars before they open their mouth...

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Ed, First of all I to think the Hammer came down alittle too quickly. Hood should have been opened and maybe revved it up alittle to get the crowd into it. Most Corvette buyers are purest, also I don't the people on the west coast really know what a Motion car is. The $210,000 was too cheap and I feel he should have maybe bought it back for the 16%. When the Motion was next to my YENKO at GM Carlisle he said the owner wanted $400,000 for it. The car appeared to be mostly a body conversion, the engine seemed basically stock.
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Does anyone that has seen this car in person have anything to add as far as the quality or the extent of the restoration? I also am very disapointed with the lack of respect it received.

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i did see it advertised last year for $400k. I have seen pictures of it but seeing it on tv it looked much better. I would imagine givin that, that the car looks better in person. I thought the car went to cheap. I wonder how this will effect the convertable motion vette at $170 that was for sale (still may be) late in the year