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beater68427 05-15-2015 05:26 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
I have not done the NCRS not sure how, I have just been putting it back together as close as I can tell it was last modified, as far as a dealer goes it has a old Trider Chevrolet frame? not sure if that a was a dealer it was at ever or just a old frame I still have it hanging on my wall.

beater68427 05-15-2015 05:34 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What are you running for a cam ... ? Sounds awesome!!! TAZ </div></div>

It is a Comp 305H I ran one in 396 nova in the 80's and the car ran quite good (12.30's here)for what it was so I decided to go old school and try one again.

Craig_Maiorana 05-15-2015 05:43 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
This seems very similar to the car that there was a discussion about on another thread that was owned by an Anaheim pd detective.

Xplantdad 05-15-2015 07:21 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beater68427</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have not done the NCRS not sure how, I have just been putting it back together as close as I can tell it was last modified, as far as a dealer goes it has a old Trider Chevrolet frame? not sure if that a was a dealer it was at ever or just a old frame I still have it hanging on my wall. </div></div>

Vern Trider? That was an Anaheim Chevrolet dealerstarted out on Anaheim Blvd if I remember correctly, then moved to the corner of Euclid and Lincoln...Changed to Southland Chevrolet in 1993? Southland is now closed as well...and a Target store is on the land where the dealer once was...

earntaz 05-15-2015 07:38 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beater68427</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What are you running for a cam ... ? Sounds awesome!!! TAZ </div></div>

It is a Comp 305H I ran one in 396 nova in the 80's and the car ran quite good (12.30's here)for what it was so I decided to go old school and try one again. </div></div>

Great! thanks for the reply!!

beater68427 05-15-2015 08:54 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beater68427</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have not done the NCRS not sure how, I have just been putting it back together as close as I can tell it was last modified, as far as a dealer goes it has a old Trider Chevrolet frame? not sure if that a was a dealer it was at ever or just a old frame I still have it hanging on my wall. </div></div>

Vern Trider? That was an Anaheim Chevrolet dealerstarted out on Anaheim Blvd if I remember correctly, then moved to the corner of Euclid and Lincoln...Changed to Southland Chevrolet in 1993? Southland is now closed as well...and a Target store is on the land where the dealer once was... </div></div>

That's the one Says Anaheim on top or bottom cant remember then opposite side Vern Trider and a Bowtie

beater68427 05-18-2015 12:49 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
I remembered to take a picture of that frame this weekend

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...954-trider.jpg

Xplantdad 05-18-2015 07:00 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
Same dealer. I used to live a few blocks from Vern Trider [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

beater68427 05-22-2015 12:46 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
The fun part putting it back together and detailing, nice to see the front end going back on.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...5-camaro01.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...6-camaro03.jpg

resto4u 05-22-2015 07:33 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
Has it been documented that nickey/thomas engine transplants received yellow painted engines? If so, what is the color name or paint code. Roger

beater68427 05-22-2015 09:24 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: resto4u</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Has it been documented that nickey/thomas engine transplants received yellow painted engines? If so, what is the color name or paint code. Roger </div></div>

In looking at pictures Bill Thomas painted some of his engines Yellow in various cars, I just decided to on this car when I got it the engine was black but had been Black Yellow and Orange on the block the heads were bare aluminum I still have those heads but they need work. The rest I threw away it was junk.

beater68427 06-08-2015 12:43 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
I wanted to duplicate the factory undercoating it took a while but found a NOS gallon of some tar type undercoating made by evercoat probably from the 80's I cant stand the newer spray on stuff it just looks wrong to me and seems mushy, I tried on some spray cards to apply it different ways the one that looked the best was just a 1 inch brush and dabbing it on over spraying it, this is one coat down I think I will do two

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...-undercoat.jpg

olredalert 06-08-2015 02:39 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
----Jeff,,,,Some racers (Bob Hamilton was one) painted their engines yellow as they could see oil leaks more easily. Im sure that's the reason Bill T did at least some of his engines that way....Bill S

JoeC 06-09-2015 10:24 AM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
not sure why Thomas used yellow but he was old school and
in 1957 Chevy painted some 283 truck engines yellow

for some reason in 1950's Chevy used many engine colors - blue red yellow gray green orange black even a Chartreuse (lime green)

other years used different colors also

http://www.cs.siena.edu/~lederman/tr...VCCAcolor.html

leach 06-09-2015 10:55 AM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
Yes engines were painted yellow to detect oil leaks that is why Nickey also painted them yellow. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img]

beater68427 06-09-2015 02:25 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
Does anyone have a good picture of the factory horn mounting on a standard 68, I have lost a few pictures over the years and I cant seem to find a good picture on line.

Stefano 06-09-2015 04:39 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
I never asked Bill Thomas that specific question, but did ask Don Swiatek.

While there may be some validity to the opinions posted, it was mainly done in order to have their engines stand out. A customer option for conversions was offered where NicKey would paint the engine any color you wanted. Since there were several magazine articles, including a cover shot with the a &quot;Yellow&quot; engine, Yellow became a popular color if and when the traditional Chevy Orange was not used.

The Yellow painted engines became associated with NicKey and Bill Thomas conversions.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics..._3.91s_014.jpg

beater68427 06-19-2015 12:27 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
A little more headway on beater, I did install a big block radiator, it had a small block one in it but I figured I want to drive this without any potential issues I will have to chance it without the caution fan decal they tell me they are on nation back order.... It needed a new heater core and I went back and forth on to convert it to a big block or leave the small block 6 type in it, I decided to leave the small block 6 type in it during conversions they didn't switch them back then so I kept it that way, feels good to finally see it going back togeather after sitting all these years.
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...-68camaro2.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...-68camaro3.jpg

Day2_69Z 06-20-2015 03:28 AM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
I noticed the None vacuum line on the distributor, can you post the stamped # and date ?
Also, the dates on the carbs with list #'s etc.?

Damn cool ass car !

beater68427 06-22-2015 01:36 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Day2_69Z</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I noticed the None vacuum line on the distributor, can you post the stamped # and date ?
Also, the dates on the carbs with list #'s etc.?

Damn cool ass car ! </div></div>

Thanks!! The engine in the car now is nothing special a 454 with 67 427 closed chamber heads steel crank flat top pistons comp cams 305H, I have the 074 heads dated 73 and the Offy intake is dated 73 most everything form the other engine was dated 73 the block was junk so I scraped it, some day I was going to build a 73 set up to duplicate it but for now what's in it stays.

beater68427 09-04-2015 01:22 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
Had to take a few month off putting beater back together been boating season and I love boating.... Dug out the hood last night for beater and wondering if I should put a stripe on it or not????? I was thinking just the Corvette Bezel and the 427 numbers on side I kind of like the plane look, Opinions?

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...psni6x5s4d.jpg

earntaz 09-04-2015 04:37 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
Vette stinger ...

1967Z28 09-04-2015 04:42 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
Try it with no stinger stripe. You can always add it later if you decide you don't like it.

68l30 09-04-2015 06:08 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
I've got a black Stinger hood with the stinger done in White &amp; White Lace....Period look.


BIG

Plowman 09-04-2015 06:36 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
The Stinger Hood with Corvette Bezel look's good with the Stinger Stripe. I would not like to take the hood off and stripe it later in white.

beater68427 09-04-2015 07:25 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
Color looks too orange in pics but it is correct, mixed emotions on hood stripe I did buy new Corvette 427 emblems and bezel, I did not put SS emblems on car its a 6cyl car and not trying to hide that fact, but I did spray the tail panel in satin I like the look

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...psi9llyff6.jpg

beater68427 09-04-2015 07:31 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Plowman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Stinger Hood with Corvette Bezel look's good with the Stinger Stripe. I would not like to take the hood off and stripe it later in white. </div></div>

I really do not want to be taking it on and off either.

PxTx 09-04-2015 07:43 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/w...rankYellow.jpg

I think you need to stripe them.

beater68427 09-08-2015 03:33 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/w...rankYellow.jpg

I think you need to stripe them. </div></div>

This picture really set my mind, I am going to go with a white stinger stripe that car with no stripe does not look good the hood blends in to me.

John 09-08-2015 04:07 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 

... Is that &quot;Hugger Orange&quot; pint color ? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]

.... You may want to go with a &quot;black&quot; stinger stripe rather then white

.... since you have added the &quot;black&quot; tail panel

...just a suggestion [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif[/img]

PeteLeathersac 09-08-2015 04:10 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 

Stripes or not, unless you plan on opening it up for flow, the inside stinger scoop vertical piece looks best blackened.
[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
~ Pete


https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...omascamaro.jpg


Craig_Maiorana 09-08-2015 04:35 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
I think you'll be safe either white or black .. but it does need something. The stinger jus kind of disappears without it.

beater68427 09-08-2015 09:16 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Stripes or not, unless you plan on opening it up for flow, the inside stinger scoop vertical piece looks best blackened.
[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
~ Pete


https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...omascamaro.jpg

</div></div>

Mine actually uses a Corvette Bezel only one I have seen that does also 427 emblems on side

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d.../beater052.jpg

beater68427 09-08-2015 09:17 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: John</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
... Is that &quot;Hugger Orange&quot; pint color ? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]

.... You may want to go with a &quot;black&quot; stinger stripe rather then white

.... since you have added the &quot;black&quot; tail panel

...just a suggestion [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif[/img] </div></div>

No, Correct color it just looks orange from my phone pictures

beater68427 09-08-2015 09:20 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
Better pic, it also is glass skin on steel structure uses factory springs and latch

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d.../beater033.jpg

Verne_Frantz 09-08-2015 11:21 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
Just my opinion, but do you want your car to look like a Corvette or a customized Camaro? &quot;Oh look, he put a Vette hood on his Camaro!&quot;
If it were mine, I'd come up with a nice looking set of stripes or pin stripes (unique to the car). One of one is more impressive.

Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Craig_Maiorana 09-08-2015 11:28 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
That's the beauty of the stinger hood. You can style however you want because its already something different that the ice cube tray hood or your run of the mill cowl.

Where in central joisey are you Verne?

PxTx 09-09-2015 01:40 AM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/w...smik6k2ln.jpeg


http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/w...sljh5sxrx.jpeg

Yes, there are lots of neat ideas to accent the hood. Donnie White did a nice job on this hood.
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...-11860-039.jpg

Verne_Frantz 09-09-2015 02:22 AM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SMOKIN_JOKER</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's the beauty of the stinger hood. You can style however you want because its already something different that the ice cube tray hood or your run of the mill cowl.

Where in central joisey are you Verne?
</div></div>

Just outside Princeton. Nothing but farm country until all the yuppies moved in.

Verne

markinnaples 09-09-2015 01:01 PM

Re: Did Bill Thomas build Camaros outside NICKEY??
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/w...smik6k2ln.jpeg
</div></div>

Oh man, I'd love to see more pictures of this Camaro. What a perfect 70's Style '69.
[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]


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