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Steve,
I agree 100%. "Galen said (fill in the blank)" is something you hear all the time wrt Mopars. Problem is, only about 30% of the time Galen actualy DID say it! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

The word on the Cuda engine came direct from the horse's mouth, the guy from that little French town in Wisconsin, Prarie DuChen. LOL. I know it was him because he was in jeans, with a denim shirt that said "GTS", a denim jacket that said "GTS" and a denim cap that said, yep, you guessed it! Oh yeah, and he had two cameras , one phone, and a backpack full of files on Mopars. And he had a really funny handshake. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif

Colin

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David clearly without question told me the car did not have the original engine and trans. Because I kept pressing him about how if they purchased it from the second owner how they could not know where the original engine was? You only have to ask two people to find that answer. The guy they bought it from and the guy he bought it from? I also asked why it needed to be repainted with only 7000 miles and again Dave didn't really know the history of the car. I had no interest in the car without the original motor so my guess is if it had it in the car at the time David would have told me?

It is certainly possible that after my conversation with David ,Galen found the motor or that David didn't know the motor had been reunited with the car at the time I spoke to him. And during one of my conversations with Galen prior to the car being sold at auction we discussed the car not having the original motor and that he was not impressed at all with the car but again it's probable that Galen reunited the motor with the car after that? This is the only sassy green 7000 mile 71 HEMI cuda with tons of paperwork I have ever discussed with anyone so I don't think I have my motors and cars mixed up but anything is possible.

And it's my opinion Galen's honesty, reputation and experience is beyond reproach since I won't buy a Mopar unless he looks at it first so any inference to the contrary is inaccurate.

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There are a bunch of people, myself included, that would prefer to have a low mileage car in its original condition, no matter how mediocre the paint may be. But the majority of collectors and or "investors" out there want perfect, hence you get low mileage cars that get full restorations. Mopar paint jobs were notoriously bad back in the 70's. Back in the day I never saw a Plum Crazy Mopar without flaking, peeling paint and factory primer showing through. It was a bad paint mix that just wouldn't stay on the cars. In the mid 80's I had an orange and white 71 Hemi Charger with a factory sunroof. The car had 33,000 miles and its original paint which was horrible. It had a factory lead repair in the quarter and paint runs you just wouldn't believe. Once the paint started flaking off the car I had no choice but to sand and repaint. But it was an interesting timepiece at the time and created many a snear at carshows when people would insult the factory paint as they would walk by.

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Galen told me that handshake is a secret and not to be discussed. Leave it to your loose lips to discuss it on a public forum. LOL

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Hey Les YOUR funny ! That car had the original motor and I love when people broadcast stuff like that, with NO interest of buying but to badmouth a car from here say ! The 71 Hemi Cuda's have passed a MILLION Dollars already and on more than one occasion.I have said for years that a ZL1 Camaro was going to ride in the prices of the 71 Hemi Cuda and the 69 Yenko Camaro is the 70 Hemi Cuda $$$ and that already has been done. I know there are less Camaro's but Chevy guys are a little less likely to spend money as is a Mopar collector. Not a bad thing but true, but there are very few Big dog(Chevy's) that bring the Million.You tell someone you have a 1/2 million Hemi and its sold.
If Chevy made a ZL1 Camaro CONVERTIBLE it would be the Million + Chevy.Otherwise thats the 67 L88 Vette(million dollar chevy)
That is why the 69 ZL1 Camaro,like a RS ZL1 Blue/White 4 speed will be the MILLION Dollar car and a few others and work your way down the food chain.

The car market is VERY strong and there are more buyers everyday than cars for sale !!!!

Colin's Translate this uckfa uoya LOL

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This is all so friggin goofy. A MILLION for a muscle car??? I still don't care. One day in 20 years when my Deuce is worth a half million because Yenko Camaros are bringing two million. I will still drive in bumper to bumper traffic in the ghetto like I did this afternoon and still beat the piss out of it at SCR27. This is what they were meant to do. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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This is all so friggin goofy. A MILLION for a muscle car??? I still don't care. One day in 20 years when my Deuce is worth a half million because Yenko Camaros are bringing two million. I will still drive in bumper to bumper traffic in the ghetto like I did this afternoon and still beat the piss out of it at SCR27. This is what they were meant to do. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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Yeah buddy....You go Frank! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

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Saaaaay, Man, I thoughts I saw a sweeet ride rolling past my crib today. It was like a Nova or sumptin, Man, but really bad , you know. The cat had "Deuce" on the side Man like he was some hustler or sumptin. All I know is that it was one bad ride. Just wish he would have slowed down enough for me to relieve him of those ryyms he was rollin' on. I really likeded dem, they was sharp as helllll.

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Saaaaay, Man, I thoughts I saw a sweeet ride rolling past my crib today. It was like a Nova or sumptin, Man, but really bad , you know. The cat had "Deuce" on the side Man like he was some hustler or sumptin. All I know is that it was one bad ride. Just wish he would have slowed down enough for me to relieve him of those ryyms he was rollin' on. I really likeded dem, they was sharp as helllll.

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif I hope your a better salesman https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

Frank... good job for driving your muscle machine!
You take her to work on Fridays?

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Rich,
It was not my intention to broadcast negative information or try to bad mouth that 71 HEMI cuda in any way. I spoke with David from Legendary in regard to the possible purchase of the 1971 7000 mile sassy green HEMI cuda long before it went to auction and I was discussing the possible trade in with David of several of my muscle cars to have one premium car that being the 71 HEMI cuda. During the conversation David told me it did not have the original engine or trans which ended my interest in the 71 HEMI cuda as far as I was concerned in that car. I am in the minority in regard to original engines in a car. The vast majority of buyers could care less on a documented 7000 mile car like that 71 HEMI cuda whether it has the original engine or not.

In two different conversations with Galen on other cars I was interested in we discussed the 71 HEMI cuda in passing and he never mentioned that he had found the block for that car so until today I still believed it did not have the original engine. I also talked to David after the auction which is how I know the car sold a week later for 50K higher than it sold for at auction and told him I thought that was a lot of money for a car wothout the original block and he never mentioned the block had been reunited with the car. He probably assumed I knew since I was talking to him about asking Galen too fly up and look at another one of their cars. As far as I am concerned if Galen says it now has the original engine that is more than enough for me. The matter is closed.

Furthermore if it was my understanding that the car had the original engine when I was interested in it that car would be in my garage right now and for a lot less than it sold for at the Mecum auction.

In regard to the HEMI market both my 69 HEMI charger and my 70 HEMI Challenger are for sale and I am trying to discern fact from fiction in the HEMI market in terms of a sales price for a quick sale. Therefore I am trying to distinguish truth from rumors. This sassy Green 71 HEMI cuda is the only 71 HEMI cuda I have seen go that high and has been in fact reported in a market magazine as a world record. I have searched the internet and all the auctions for further million dollar 71 HEMI cuda sales and couldn't find any. I try not to rely on chat forums and dealers for accurate information on the market. Accurate information from the sale of private transactions is hard to come by and I am looking for reliable information on the current market.

As for me if I was throwing around million dollar checks on a muscle car I would buy a ZL-1 camaro over any HEMI cuda and it seems logical that if the sale of the 71 HEMI cuda at the Mecum auction represents the market and is not an aberration then Zl-1s shoulds sell in the same range as a 71 HEMI cuda.

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Congrats Frank that you feel that way and you will be a legend in your home town.
I have been saying this for years: These ARE the Duesenberg's, Edsel's,Etc of are time.
Talked to a very Big judge at Meadowbrook and I said this to him( wont say is age)and he said he has two Duesenbergs and just BOUGHT a Hemi Challenger. WOW
I like the guys`who own one of these rare cars and seems pissed at the prices and stands up to tell everybody he is going to DRIVE his car.COOL
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I get the Duesenberg analogy , but Edsel???

Can I get a translator over here? Please? Anybody? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

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Hey Les I totally agree with you and their is alot of bogus stuff going on at this price level.LOL Sounds fishy !!
I think its funny, just about every Hemi E-body thats is for sale is Original motors when eveybody knows they blew alot of these up.

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Wow Colins One day I hope to get a Big head like you !!
Keep digging !!

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Sorry didnt mean the BIG HEAD on your shoulders !

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What was the title of this thread again????

Nevermind I found it. Just to refresh everyones memory:

ZL-1 # 40 on Ebay

Ok, I now send you back to your, he said, she said nightly saga.

Rick H.

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This is all so friggin goofy. A MILLION for a muscle car??? I still don't care. One day in 20 years when my Deuce is worth a half million because Yenko Camaros are bringing two million. I will still drive in bumper to bumper traffic in the ghetto like I did this afternoon and still beat the piss out of it at SCR27. This is what they were meant to do. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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Not to sound like a jerk or anything, but it's easy to say that when you didn't pay the half million for the car. If you paid what the car was worth, would you really be driving it that often? Especially if it was your life's savings you had invested in the car because you always wanted one! I love to see the guys who bought the rare, high performance cars back in the late 60's and early 70's driving and racing them. But, the car isn't worth the current market value to them if they never plan on selling. Take Eddie and his ZL1 for example. Let's say he bought it for $15K back when he saw the ad for sale. Today the car is probably worth $400-600K but to him it's still only worth $15K because that's what he paid for it and he never plans to sell it. So buying a car at a low price and driving it doesn't compare to buying a car at current market price and driving it. D@m, that was a long winded reply I just gave. Anyway, I've been waiting for the ZL1's to reach the $1 million mark since they will kick a hemi's butt on the track anyway! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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I all so like the un-restored car's. Are there any un-restored Hemicuda Convertibles left?

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I will stick my neck out yet again for you guys to chop it off. I would rather own one of the few original engine Zl-1 camaro's than any HEMI cuda Convertible. And before you guys tee off on me I own a couple of HEMIs and really appreciate them. But an aluminum ZL-1 stuffed into a little camaro is the ultimate expression of a muscle car today and forever IMHO.

OK you can commence the flaming now about how HEMI cuda convertibles are 2 or 3 million but an aluminum big block chevy in that pony car it's the ultimate. It's like Robert Duvall's quote in apocalypse now regarding naplam in the morning. "it just smells like victory"

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I'm with you. I'd rather have an aluminum 427 Camaro over any hemi. I still don't understand why the Hemi Cuda conv goes for $3 mil plus. But everyone has their preference and that's what makes the musclecar market what it is!

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Yay! ZL-1 Camaro!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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This is all so friggin goofy. A MILLION for a muscle car??? I still don't care. One day in 20 years when my Deuce is worth a half million because Yenko Camaros are bringing two million. I will still drive in bumper to bumper traffic in the ghetto like I did this afternoon and still beat the piss out of it at SCR27. This is what they were meant to do.


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Not to sound like a jerk or anything, but it's easy to say that when you didn't pay the half million for the car. If you paid what the car was worth, would you really be driving it that often? Especially if it was your life's savings you had invested in the car because you always wanted one!

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To late not to sound like a jerk Jeff. First of all, I don't know what you paid for your JL8 nor do I care but I paid a pretty penny for my Deuce and have thousands more in it in improvements over the past year and a half. Might actually be more money than you have in the JL8 that you have been restoring for the past 15 years. I will say it again. I don't give a $hit how much money I have in the car. It is getting driven like the MF was stolen. That is the bottom line. IT IS ONLY A CAR. It is insured and already a restored car so it can be restored again. If you have to worry and stay up at nights worrying about the car the "you have spent your life savings on" maybe you should change your priorities, sell it, and improve your quality of life.

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Of course all the Yenko,COPO and Zl-1 owners better hope that Charley Lillard doesn't bring from his stable what is without a doubt the worlds fastest muscle car ever made and can be bought today at any affilated dealer for 200K all day long to the Supercar Yenko shindig and cut 11.50 ETs all day long capped up and on street tires with the A/C on and Frank Sinatra in the CD player while he does business on his cell phone! It has 604 HP and 738 FT pounds of torque from the factory right off the showroom floor and is under warranty......

I refer of course to the one and only ZL-1 soul crushing camaro killing Mercedes AMG SL 65 of course. For 200K you can walk into any Mercedes dealer and buy history's most powerful muscle car. It will even have the original engine. LOL

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Yeah but people will still think you are a sissy if you pull up in a lame ass Damler thingy...and he would probably get beat up by a bunch of people. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...arleySucks.gif

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I wish the bottom would drop out of the "muscle car market" I have $3000.00 (three thousand)in my camaro.I could have bought the blue 69 RS ZL-1 1n the eighties for $45,000 but I would have had to sell my camaro to finance the sale.I thought about it very hard, because I knew what the future value would be of the one of two 69 ZL-1's made,but decided I was happy with my car,I didn't care about the money,I cared about the car.and besides if I wanted a faster car I could all ways build it to be faster,But I couldn't make the ZL-1 a convertible. I haven't put a penny in my car in 20 years and because of that it's mostly all original.I could be happy with this one car for the rest of my life.I have been able to turn down the offers to buy my camaro, but now with the prices the way they are my wife is getting more insistent for me to sell it.I don't know how much longer I can hold out. so I wouldn't care if the bottom fell out.sorry I hd to vent. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

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If I gave you a ride in it you would cry like the little baby you are... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...elairSucks.gif

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12 cyl geez,that thing has to be brutal. but it's not the same as the 60's factory high perf.My BMW is faster then my SS396.But I can't hardly burn any rubber in my BMW.I can barely here the engine.

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well it should be that fast for having 12 cylinders!!!......as far as crying like a little baby when riding in it, DONT THINK SO!!! try turning left and right at EXTREMELY high speed, then we would see who cries like a baby...........i understand he primarily goes STRAIGHT in the car, right??????

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IMO...

About 25 years ago the shoe box guys were going nuts and prices were on the climb. That was a vastly different time then with the national economy, higher bank interest rates, a stronger stock market and other factors-keeping cash and car prices in check.

Today the demographics have changed. The Boomers are fighting for an ever shrinking piece of nostalgia and youth-the best of which is the great American Supercar. The current economy is just off a stock market climb that ran alongside the birth of the computer and the tech bubble burst back in 2000 along with stock prices.

In 2005 I say situation normal. There will be some hyping of prices from time to time, but the current market reflects who we all are right now.

Prices only took off again about 6 years ago and went sky rocketing over the last 2 years.

If you can wait a few years prices will level out and fall as cars again come to market in mass except the boomer generation will then be in decline.

There will always be a market for these cars I think in a few years just a shrinking segment.

Do you really think Greenspan would say this market is sustainable?? Simple economics 101 will answer that question.

So:

If you got the car on the cheap years ago then enjoy it.
If you paid Big $$$ recently and you could do that then enjoy it.

In 50 years we will mostly all be dead by then so now having one of these cars is simply the price of the good life now.

Oh yea-Charlie I want to be like you when I grow up..... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...arleySucks.gif

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To late not to sound like a jerk Jeff. First of all, I don't know what you paid for your JL8 nor do I care but I paid a pretty penny for my Deuce and have thousands more in it in improvements over the past year and a half. Might actually be more money than you have in the JL8 that you have been restoring for the past 15 years. I will say it again. I don't give a $hit how much money I have in the car. It is getting driven like the MF was stolen. That is the bottom line. IT IS ONLY A CAR. It is insured and already a restored car so it can be restored again. If you have to worry and stay up at nights worrying about the car the "you have spent your life savings on" maybe you should change your priorities, sell it, and improve your quality of life.

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Well Frank, now you sound like a jerk. Apparently you have money grwoing on trees or access to an unlimited bank account. Like a lot of regular people, I don't have access to funds like you do. Why do you think I'm driving a 1988 4Runner every day, because I like it? I have sacrificed all my income the last 6-7 years to make my crossram JL8 car a reality. But when it's done, I'll be nervous about driving it in NJ because the chances are very high something bad will happen. I know insurance will cover any damage, but I'm not waiting another 5 years to have it fixed again. And you have no idea how much I have invested in my car and it's probably more than you do in your car so get off your soapbox. You can't join any discussion in a civil manner, can you. I apologize to others reading this but Frank is way out of bounds with his attitude!

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Alot of talk of comapring performance of the 71 Hemi-cuda and a ZL1 camaro. Lets not forget they were produced for 2 completely different reasons. The Zl1 was produced to compete against the 68 Hemi SS cars. If you want to compare performance, that in my opinion is a better comparison. Street Hemis weren't designed to race ZL1's. But the race hemi sure can. Patrick

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To late not to sound like a jerk Jeff. First of all, I don't know what you paid for your JL8 nor do I care but I paid a pretty penny for my Deuce and have thousands more in it in improvements over the past year and a half. Might actually be more money than you have in the JL8 that you have been restoring for the past 15 years. I will say it again. I don't give a $hit how much money I have in the car. It is getting driven like the MF was stolen. That is the bottom line. IT IS ONLY A CAR. It is insured and already a restored car so it can be restored again. If you have to worry and stay up at nights worrying about the car the "you have spent your life savings on" maybe you should change your priorities, sell it, and improve your quality of life.

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Well Frank, now you sound like a jerk. Apparently you have money grwoing on trees or access to an unlimited bank account. Like a lot of regular people, I don't have access to funds like you do. Why do you think I'm driving a 1988 4Runner every day, because I like it? I have sacrificed all my income the last 6-7 years to make my crossram JL8 car a reality. But when it's done, I'll be nervous about driving it in NJ because the chances are very high something bad will happen. I know insurance will cover any damage, but I'm not waiting another 5 years to have it fixed again. And you have no idea how much I have invested in my car and it's probably more than you do in your car so get off your soapbox. You can't join any discussion in a civil manner, can you. I apologize to others reading this but Frank is way out of bounds with his attitude!

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Jeff,
It's a frickin car, get over it already - and drive the stupid thing when it's done. Trust me, a lot of guys have done what you are doing - me included, once it's done what are you going to do - spend the rest of your life braggin about how it sits in your garage at home? Who cares what they are worth, or what a person's buy-in price was, they are simply cars that can only do one thing - drive on down the road, or 1/4 mile https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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PS: your car would be done sooner and cheaper if you would get busy and work on it yourself https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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You either own the car, or the car owns you...

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I think the more likely scenario is 5 years from now the people running up the prices of these cars will lose interest and will go onto their next hobby "whim"/ "fancy" whatever you want to call it and leave the car hobby in the dust...and never look back. Bidding at places like BJ is nothing but a pi**ing match anyway to thse guys. Mines bigger than yours deal.

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You either own the car, or the car owns you...

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Amen and pass the gravy! I look at the opportunity to go out and enjoy my car on a regular basis. Maybe I am too simple, but it is a car, I can find replacement parts for most everything on my car. I will try to put a smile on other people's faces when they see my car rolling down the road and keep a smile on mine that is actually a result of having my back slammed into the seat by extreme amounts of torque! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

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You either own the car, or the car owns you...

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Amen and pass the gravy! I look at the opportunity to go out and enjoy my car on a regular basis. Maybe I am too simple, but it is a car, I can find replacement parts for most everything on my car. I will try to put a smile on other people's faces when they see my car rolling down the road and keep a smile on mine that is actually a result of having my back slammed into the seat by extreme amounts of torque! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

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So True... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

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You either own the car, or the car owns you...

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Preach it Brother https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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I can see both sides of the argument between Jeff and Frank,
As for Jeff, he is working his butt off to make his dream car JL-8 a reality and is sacraficing any extras and comforts to do it as he isnt in the catagory of people who can plop down 40-60 grand to get it done at once without wondering if he will lose his house and have to live in the car while its getting done and he doesnt have the time to do it himself so when its done he wants to baby and cherrish it and keep it out of harms way because if something happens to it he has just spent the better part of his life for and on a car,

On Franks end he belives that these cars no matter what somebody paid for it or what some damn book says its worth is going to drive it the way it was designed and suppose to be driven, drive it like you stole it! If something happens you call your insurance agent up and tell him its time to enforce that giant 3 hundred buck policy you have and get it fixed.

Im more on Franks side with this, If I cant ride the piss out of it and enjoy it why bother having it, I can always go to a museum or the SCR shows and look at the cars and check them out with out having to wonder if the humidity controls in my garage are working correctly because God forbid there is moisture on the half million dollar car or worse theres some little kid walking near it with a popsickle...
We all know its more fun to drive than to trailer and wax the exhaust system all day and there are way better investments than muscle cars which are called houses.
So in the end, As Rob said, do you own your car or does it own you?
I own mine and Im going to beat her and she's gonna like it most of the time https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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Well Frank, now you sound like a jerk. Apparently you have money grwoing on trees or access to an unlimited bank account. Like a lot of regular people, I don't have access to funds like you do. Why do you think I'm driving a 1988 4Runner every day, because I like it? I have sacrificed all my income the last 6-7 years to make my crossram JL8 car a reality. But when it's done, I'll be nervous about driving it in NJ because the chances are very high something bad will happen. I know insurance will cover any damage, but I'm not waiting another 5 years to have it fixed again. And you have no idea how much I have invested in my car and it's probably more than you do in your car so get off your soapbox. You can't join any discussion in a civil manner, can you. I apologize to others reading this but Frank is way out of bounds with his attitude!


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Get off YOUR soap box. We have been listening for years about your JL8 and all the woes of you having no money to finish it and how you will be afraid to drive it. Also how do you know what my financial status is? I am also a regular guy. I worked my ass off so I could buy a Deuce and am not going to just sit and look at it in a garage. Life is to short for that. Take my advise, when one day the JL8 is done drive it out of the resto shop sideways. It is very liberating. The night Neal delivered my Deuce to me I took it out the second he pulled away. I tore down the street at 1:15 am with the car running like $hit, a 4.56 gear, and no working headlights. I could barely contain myself and couldn't believe that I actually owned a Yenko Deuce. THATS what it is all about. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

Re: ZL-1 # 40 on Ebay
 

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I tore down the street at 1:15 am with the car running like $hit, a 4.56 gear, and no working headlights. I could barely contain myself and couldn't believe that I actually owned a Yenko Deuce. THATS what it is all about. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

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Your my kinda guy Frank, I wish you owned an original motor ZL-1! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

Re: ZL-1 # 40 on Ebay
 

Personally I am restoring my GTO just like it came from the factory, (frame off nut and bolt detailed resotration) then when I am done I am going out and taking it to the drag strip, (my wife thinks that I am nuts) that is what the car was built to do, so that is what I am going to do with it. What good is a car if it just sits around, I might as well play in the stock market.