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Survivor 69/Z28 01-21-2008 09:10 PM

Re: Original miles "really" matter on a restored car?
 
But what I do not understand is why fully restored cars with lower miles really matters. A car with 20k miles should show some age but very little ware. My point is, most of these low mile cars are fully restored. So with that said, do the miles then really matter with everything being new or like new.
Example:
There was a red 69 Z sold at the BJ. It claimed to have 26k original miles. BUT.... it had been fully restored. So if everything has been redone on the car why would a person pay more for a car with 26k miles? If a car has 200k vs. 25k miles, if everything has been gone through it makes not one bit of difference IMO.
There were several cars like this, where they were ranting and raving about the low miles. But they were restored.....

LS6 RAT 01-21-2008 09:26 PM

Re: Original miles "really" matter on a restored car?
 

I also think that if a car is COMPLETELY restored, mileage doesn't matter one iota. I don't necessarily agree that having the odometer reset to zero miles is a bad thing. A completely restored vehicle should be the same condition as bought brand new and those odometers usually have close to zero miles on the gauge.

LS6 RAT 01-21-2008 09:32 PM

Re: Original miles "really" matter on a restored car?
 

One item that is often stated by consigners of cars at auctions is that they are restored to factory stock, and in the same breadth state that the engine has been rebuilt. When queried on this aspect, the potential buyer finds out that the engine has been modified from factory specs.
I wish the owners would just not use the term factory stock...it's definitely not the truth.

LS6 RAT 01-21-2008 09:44 PM

Re: Original miles "really" matter on a restored car?
 

I also get very leery over low mileage cars that have been "completely restored". I then imagine what kind of condition was this car in, in the first place to need a complete restoration????

I've got two Corvettes that are still original paint, original interiors, original drivetrains. Both are missing some original mechanical components, such as one car has a replacement fan clutch, both cars have replacement starters, both cars have replacement exhaust piping/mufflers, both cars have a replacement,restored original A.I.R. emissions system.
One car has 60,013 miles, the other has 39,297 miles and neither car "need to be restored" to be presentable appearing automobiles. There is no cylinder boring, or decking, no heads surfaced or ported, no intakes milled, or ported no crankshafts turned under or oversize rod or main bearings, no aftermarket camshafts & lifters..just original specifications as the factory assembled.
My opinion is that the musclecars that are truly factory original are the utmost desireable ones and certainly the most valuable from a monetary standpoint.

Survivor 69/Z28 01-21-2008 10:08 PM

Re: Original miles "really" matter on a restored car?
 
LS6 RAT,

I am with you a 100% on that. I am much more interested in the true originals rather than the ones that have been restored. I LOVE the pretty new looking restored cars though. BUT, I am always wondering what was "really" done to the car when restored. So many guys will spend mega bucks on cars without even knowing who rebuilt the engine and what parts were used.

Keith Tedford 01-21-2008 10:09 PM

Re: Original miles "really" matter on a restored car?
 
Back in the day virtually everyone disconnected their speedometers to extende the 5-50 warranty. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif Cars with original mileage showing are very, very rare and how do you prove it without a ton of receipts over the years showing the mileage progression. I know with our car the speedometer cable gear box that mounts into the transmission seized up several times and went quite a while before being repaired. I was beyond warranty so it didn't matter any way. I just drove by the tach. It looked to me this year that big scoops, stripes, and pro touring were what sold best. COPO cars are too much the plain Jane sleeper for this crowd.

LS6 RAT 01-21-2008 10:30 PM

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Survivor 69/Z28,

Yeah, I with you there as well. Nice new shiny paint does make me a bit envious though.

LS6 RAT 01-21-2008 10:31 PM

Re: Original miles "really" matter on a restored car?
 
Keith,

So, absolutely true! That's why I love the '71 LS6 Corvettes. They are similar to the '69 Camaro ZL-1's. A wolf in sheeps clothing. Very plain appearing on the exterior, but under all that clothing is a beast at heart!

But I also love all the graphics and loud color paint schemes. My heart jumps at seeing a Lemon twist AAR Cuda with that mat black paint and strobe stripes. I love that P51 Mustang fighter belly scoop inspired hood on the T/A Challengers, the clothes hanger wings of the Daytona and Superbird. I love the Grabber colors of the Mustangs, with rear window slats, shaker hoods, the '71 gull wing design spoiler of the 'cuda's. The great looking naca duct hoods of the '69, '70 Shelbys and their side scooped breathern of '67 & '68.
But what I'm most proud of are the rare HD desireable mechanical pieces that GM, Ford & Chrysler put into these great automobiles! M22 heavy duty transmissions, HD dual plate clutches, magnetic pulse transistorized ignition systems, aluminum heads, etc, etc,.
I'm am so fortunate to have been around during the greatest car decade ever!


Mr. Chevy 01-22-2008 12:09 AM

Re: Original miles "really" matter on a restored car?
 
I think this is a lot of https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif also. How many guys disconnected the speedo cables to go racing or for whatever other purpose?? Or as stated above, how many people rolled back the odometers because it is so easy to do?? Unless you really know the car and have a good, solid documentation trail who in the hell really knows how many miles some of these cars actually have... Thats my .02

Rich

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 01-23-2008 06:16 PM

Re: Original miles "really" matter on a restored car?
 
I think that a restored car with low mileage is good to know - bec/ there is a higher probability that most of the parts are indeed original to that car. A good example would be Sandlins '68 Dana Camaro, low miles but a full resto. So, you know that the car will have the majority of it's born with, original panels, interior, undercarriage, etc...

So, low miles can support a higher price on a restored car from that perspective.


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