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Man you drive a hard bargain, ok I owe you Pepsi. I'll even make it a free refill.

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I have many but the 10M-226 [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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steved

I assume you are talking about the RA-V that was run in FL. I have 4 sets of pics of it but NONE are color. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]Sorry. These are the one with the unique paint scheme. If need be will try to post a couple. Jeffh has them too and he may be quicker. Having trouble reducing size. Trying to attach but still may be too big.

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This is the one I'm talking about.

RAV Testing

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Sorry, Don't have that one.

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Copo.. the main man with all the pics..... have you got any pics of this orange Judge other than the one in the Super Stock? There must be other photos of it, but the editor only used 1 in the article. Or maybe some one else has knowledge of where they may be.

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Steve,

I have knowledge of where some of them are [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. They are in my husbandís archives. As he stated before, Bill has dozens of actual original photos of that Judge in the article (with and without signs). Since you have ìburned your bridgesî with him, I doubt very much he would ever show them to you.

For the THIRD timeÖThat car in SUPER STOCK was a RAM AIR III, 4 spd car that belonged to Jess Jesen from Colonial Pontiac. It was NOT a ìspecial engineering carî nor was it the Lime GTO that was made into a Judge. Even though you do not appear to believe him, Jim Wangers, along with Milt and Dave (who were all there) have all confirmed this information through the years and their stories all correlate with each otherís on this topic. The magazine article is a modge-podge of data. The photo credit clearly shows ìPhotoís by GM Photographicî, so they were not taken by the magazine photographer. Take a look at that photo again, you will see that the Judge has MAG wheels and STICKERS all over it! Looking at Billís photos I can see this Judge has a Florida Dealer plate and a TRAILER HITCH! Does not sound much like an engineering car [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img], unless they used it to tow their "RAM AIR V SPEEDBOAT" around Florida! LOL!

Over the past couple months (in previous threads on here), it has been proven (beyond a reasonable doubt) that there were no RA V motorís put in GTOís on the assembly line, nor were any installed in GTOís by engineering and sold to retail customers. The article with the JUDGE was mocked up for ìP.R.î purposes and before you askÖthere were NO Ram Air Vís put in Pontiac Astreís either! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif[/img]

Rita [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]

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Over the past couple months (in previous threads on here), it has been proven (beyond a reasonable doubt) that there were no RA V motors put in GTOs on the assembly line, nor were any installed in GTOs by engineering and sold to retail customers. Rita

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Rita and all,
There was a question raised about Milt Schornack's website.
miltschornack.com

On the website, (managed by his son Jim), they picture the RA-V GTO that they've finished building. (Note: he never "claims" it's a factory RA-V!) But the car is now being called a Ram Air VI! (six!)
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif
Anyway, in speaking with Mr. Schornack, he informed me that the "next rational step" in expanding on the RA-V WOULD HAVE been to upsize the engine to a 421 and change the cam, intake and exhaust ports. (Milt even had some insight into Pontiac's plans for a Ram Air VII !!!)

So, when Milt calls this car a Ram Air 6, it's because he had a very good idea what it WOULD have been.

Now.... anybody who knows GTOs/Pontiac SHOULD understand that a RA-VI or even a RA-VII are not "officially" a Pontiac set-up, because PMD never released them . So what Milt's doing is simply having some fun with his son.

I have a buddy who painted a '75 LeMans in Carousel Red, blacked-out the grill and tagged it with "The Judge" emblems. As butt-ugly as that car was-- it CERTAINLY was alotta fun to look at! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

In short (ha ha), please don't take Milt's RA-VI claim too seriously -- it's only meant to be fun!
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

~GOAT72 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

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If anyone is interested in seeing this, I could start posting it (about a dozen pages). Got it from a guy named Westley who bought a crate motor, I suspect it came with the motor.

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Belair

George DeLorean is credited with taken a set of Ford heads to Pontiac Engineers for development.

Two of the engineers that I know of at this point, were Jeff Young and Tom Nell.

There is a third that came along late in the program, that is helping research with me. I'll put up what he helps me with and who he is when it's finished.

Tom Nell is retired and the author of the attachments I made earlier today, he does not like to talk about it the past.

Jeff Young's last known where abouts, Colorado Springs in the hotel business.

Steve