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Re: 1970 Olds W-30 4 speed Holiday Coupe
Might be one of the few real and documented W-30s sold out of that place.
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Just curious if the rear spoiler was added later. It looks to be in primer in the last photo.
Very neat car either way. |
Re: 1970 Olds W-30 4 speed Holiday Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1967Z28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just curious if the rear spoiler was added later. It looks to be in primer in the last photo.
Very neat car either way. </div></div> sweet car! I was wondering about the spoiler also ?? |
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Love it too! The '70 W30 Post car in the Minnesota Dragways footage link Stefano posted in another thread here earlier today is pretty awesome too... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRs80eHVfMs [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] ~ Pete |
Re: 1970 Olds W-30 4 speed Holiday Coupe
Yes, my friend Dean added the spoiler soon after he got the car from Oregon. He said he always liked the look of the spoilers on the coupes. Dean had extensive paperwork & documentation on the car. It was one of the finest W-30’s out there.
While Dean had his W-30 4spd car on consignment at Volo - they were also selling an original paint 1970 442 W-30 coupe from The Otis Chandler Collection. At the time (early 1990’s) I don’t believe Volo had the questionable reputation they later developed. Again these cars were not trading for the astronomical prices that they later acquired. Thanks Pete for sharing the dragstrip video. That is so cool! I love the original film footage. It almost looks to be a stripe delete W-30. :bigthumbup: John |
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Yes, the spoiler was added to original deck lid.
That is Tom Kelly's W-30 Post. Originally Silver (Platinum) but was repainted early in it's life. Now Black with Gold Stripes. |
Re: 1970 Olds W-30 4 speed Holiday Coupe
Most muscle car enthusiasts know that the horsepower
ADVERTISEMENT ratings of the engines were deliberately set lower than what they actually made. Usually for insurance reasons and so the cars could run in a more favorable class in drag races. Noted auto journalist Roger Huntington wrote an article about what these engines actually put out; here is the list: (All are gross hp & torque figures.) Engine------------------Advertised----Rated----------True ------------------------HP @ RPM---- Torque@ RPM-- HP @ RPM Buick 455 Stage 1-------360@5000----510@2800------420@5400 Camaro Z/28 302--------290@5800----290@4200------310@6200 Chevelle 396 L-78-------375@5600----415@3600------400@5600 Corvette 427 L-88-------430@5200----450@4400------480@6400 Mopar 340-4 bbl---------275@5000----340@3200------320@5600 Mopar 440-Magnum------375@4600----480@3200------410@5400 Mopar 440 Six-Pack------390@4700----490@3200------430@5600 Mopar 426 Street Hemi---425@5000----490@4000------470@6000 Mustang Boss 302--------290@5800----290@4300------310@6200 Ford 351-4 bbl Cleveland--300@5400----380@3400------340@5600 Mustang Boss 351--------330@5400----370@4000------360@6000 Mustang 428 Cobra-Jet---335@5200----440@3400------410@5600 Mustang Boss 429--------375@5200----450@3400------420@5600 Oldsmobile 455 W-30-----370@5300----500@3600------440@5600 Oldsmobile 350 W-31-----325@5400----360@3600------350@5800 Pontiac Ram Air 400------366@5100----445@3600------410@5600 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Notes: -The most underrated was probably the 428 Cobra Jet engine... its official rating of 335 hp was a joke, especially considering that the 390-4 bbl engine was also rated at 335 hp. -The second-most underrated was probaby either the Mopar 426-Hemi or the 340-4 bbl. The 340-Six Pack was not listed, but with an advertised hp of 290@5000 rpm and torque of 340@3200 rpm, I would guess about 335 hp @ 6000 rpm. <span style="color: #000099">The actual power output of that 455 Olds W-30 is very impressive... 440 hp! </span> |
Re: 1970 Olds W-30 4 speed Holiday Coupe
I am sensing some passion for the W30 Stefano!!! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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Oldsmobile 350 W-31-----325@5400----360@3600------350@5800
Look at this:-) Are these tuned "ringers", or were these regular production engines? |
Re: 1970 Olds W-30 4 speed Holiday Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stefano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Most muscle car enthusiasts know that the horsepower
ADVERTISEMENT ratings of the engines were deliberately set lower than what they actually made. Usually for insurance reasons and so the cars could run in a more favorable class in drag races. Noted auto journalist Roger Huntington wrote an article about what these engines actually put out; here is the list: (All are gross hp & torque figures.) Engine------------------Advertised----Rated----------True ------------------------HP @ RPM---- Torque@ RPM-- HP @ RPM Buick 455 Stage 1-------360@5000----510@2800------420@5400 Camaro Z/28 302--------290@5800----290@4200------310@6200 Chevelle 396 L-78-------375@5600----415@3600------400@5600 Corvette 427 L-88-------430@5200----450@4400------480@6400 Mopar 340-4 bbl---------275@5000----340@3200------320@5600 Mopar 440-Magnum------375@4600----480@3200------410@5400 Mopar 440 Six-Pack------390@4700----490@3200------430@5600 Mopar 426 Street Hemi---425@5000----490@4000------470@6000 Mustang Boss 302--------290@5800----290@4300------310@6200 Ford 351-4 bbl Cleveland--300@5400----380@3400------340@5600 Mustang Boss 351--------330@5400----370@4000------360@6000 Mustang 428 Cobra-Jet---335@5200----440@3400------410@5600 Mustang Boss 429--------375@5200----450@3400------420@5600 Oldsmobile 455 W-30-----370@5300----500@3600------440@5600 Oldsmobile 350 W-31-----325@5400----360@3600------350@5800 Pontiac Ram Air 400------366@5100----445@3600------410@5600 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Notes: -The most underrated was probably the 428 Cobra Jet engine... its official rating of 335 hp was a joke, especially considering that the 390-4 bbl engine was also rated at 335 hp. -The second-most underrated was probaby either the Mopar 426-Hemi or the 340-4 bbl. The 340-Six Pack was not listed, but with an advertised hp of 290@5000 rpm and torque of 340@3200 rpm, I would guess about 335 hp @ 6000 rpm. <span style="color: #66CCCC"> -The actual power output of that 455 Olds W-30 is very impressive... 440 hp! ____</span>______________ Cadillac '69 Fleetwood Brougham, '76 Cadillac Fleetwood Seventy-Five Limousine, '95 Lincoln Town Car. </div></div> wonder where the ZL-1 would fit in there compared to the L-88.. no stats on that motor ? |
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