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bergy 01-25-2012 09:08 PM

Re: ALL BLACK 1970 Z28
 
Does anyone know how hard it would be to send every piece of sheet metal back through the paint line(s) and coordinate the whole thing? At St. Louis, I recall re-running (starting the production order over) the car if a paint color mistake was made - never repainting a car a different color. It would be like the assy plant was selling a used car - hard to imagine - but as we've said before - anything's possible.

bergy 01-25-2012 09:13 PM

Re: ALL BLACK 1970 Z28
 
Also, also - putting a color change from copper to black would be a real "dogs breakfast" when it came out of the re-flow oven!

Stefano 01-25-2012 09:35 PM

Re: ALL BLACK 1970 Z28
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: COPO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is strange that black was not offerred on Camaros in '70 as it was a standard Camaro color in '69 and again in 71. There were certainly plenty of black '70 Chevelles sold, so I would not think it was soley a popularity issue. </div></div>

I think it had more to do with the specific plants. Black was a &quot;restricted&quot; color in 1969 on Camaros.

70 copo 01-25-2012 10:30 PM

Re: ALL BLACK 1970 Z28
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bergy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Also, also - putting a color change from copper to black would be a real &quot;dogs breakfast&quot; when it came out of the re-flow oven! </div></div>

Could have been painted over at AGR as a tape off and then through the touch-up oven there.

69LM1 01-25-2012 10:42 PM

Re: ALL BLACK 1970 Z28
 
I have a &quot;day 2&quot; motion modded Curry 69 Camaro that is close to completion:

http://www.69lm1.com/pics/69rh.jpg

Original story is that it was a BM car, but after getting &quot;that&quot; special piece of paper, found out it was a Curry car.

X66D80, no radio car.

http://www.69lm1.com/X66D80/ttag.jpg


Check out the leaf spring mod:

http://www.69lm1.com/X66D80/ssspring.jpg

Have not been able to find much info on Curry, and was told by many that they had no links to HiPo cars and then found the ad above. As well as this clinic they put on:

http://www.69lm1.com/396/car028.jpg
http://www.69lm1.com/396/car027.jpg

If anyone comes across any history, I'd appreciate it. This car also has a unique &quot;weld&quot; in the front subframe, I am sure as a mark, if anyone comes across any history on my car.

Rich Pern

bergy 01-25-2012 11:13 PM

Re: ALL BLACK 1970 Z28
 
Paint a whole car at touch up? - I smell a strike coming on!

70 copo 01-26-2012 01:32 AM

Re: ALL BLACK 1970 Z28
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bergy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Paint a whole car at touch up? - I smell a strike coming on! </div></div>

That's right... but a labor stoppage was not needed to get it done.

bergy 01-26-2012 03:02 AM

Re: ALL BLACK 1970 Z28
 
Did someone document that Phil? I mean, the car had to be assembled to make its way to touch up. So, the car would have to be disassembled to repaint it. It's not just a tape &amp; spray - you've got the jambs, cowl, etc. that are the wrong color!

Has someone actually signed a statement saying that this happened. I had 1,000 people working for me at GM &amp; I can tell you for sure that anyone who authorized something like this would have gotten an involintary retirement the next day!

70 copo 01-26-2012 03:13 AM

Re: ALL BLACK 1970 Z28
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bergy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Did someone document that Phil? I mean, the car had to be assembled to make its way to touch up. So, the car would have to be disassembled to repaint it. It's not just a tape &amp; spray - you've got the jambs, cowl, etc. that are the wrong color!

Has someone actually signed a statement saying that this happened. I had 1,000 people working for me at GM &amp; I can tell you for sure that anyone who authorized something like this would have gotten an involintary retirement the next day! </div></div>

Bergy that's a good prospective... for Norwood I have Photographs of entire cars being painted at AGR, and have interviewed the superintendent of that area. I can assure you that entire cars were painted when needed at AGR all the way from basic DUCO color coating repair due to bad paint match at Sheet metal drop - to an entire color change for a non standard color.

bergy 01-26-2012 03:28 AM

Re: ALL BLACK 1970 Z28
 
Anything's possible. More likely that the painter didn't purge the gun properly when changing colors. The painters each had one gun, so they had to purge the head when they changed lines from the old color to the new color. We always sprayed in the trunk first just in case the gun wasn't fully purged. That's more likely what happened here.

PM me the superintendent's name - I may know him.


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